Watchya Been Playin?

Discussion in 'General Game Help & Discussion' started by Gorge, Aug 8, 2012.

  1. Sigs Minock

    Sigs Minock Truth is a lie... Premium Member

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    Farmed up two Zims in Borderlands: Pre-Sequel, and use them to duplicate and grind some better weapons. now i've got plenty of appropriate level weapons. too many, in fact.

    Also, still happily playing through Trails of Cold Steel II. There was one mission i was doing that i could have retried to beat the enemy, but because it was more or less a training/test of limits fight- and the opposing member was spamming his power attack that would have killed me before i could have healed up. so i decided to just admit defeat and proceed with the mission.
     
  2. Woozie

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    Let's go with all of the above?

    I'll use an analogy. In a normal story, like a movie or something, they'll use some narrative device to lure you into the world. Like a macguffin. In Star Wars, R2-D2 brings Luke a mysterious message and that immediately poses questions: what does the content of the message mean? Who is Obi-Wan Kenobi? Who is the girl? These are simple questions that the viewer cares about. If Star Wars were to open with 45 minutes of explaining the politics of Empire versus Rebels, or backstory of how Luke ended up on Tatooine, it'd be very dry.

    Those games are nothing but dry introductions. It's all world building with no hook for why I would care. Same with the gameplay/controls. They talk about how it could be cool at the highest level of play, but the first dozen or so hours is just fumbling through trying to equip armor and weapons effectively. Pillars of Eternity even has a system where certain weapons won't do any damage to certain types of enemies, but the feedback on how you figure that out is not very clear. It's also not super easy to understand when you've successfully switched weapons mid-battle. So I just kind of had to hope it was working.

    It reminded me of a conversation on the Bombcast where they went to a GDC talk about inaccessible versus difficult. Some developer was talking about how some of the "hardest games" are actually just inaccessible. The example he gave was "There's nothing difficult about not knowing where to go next." That's pretty much how I felt about Pillars/Divinity. I just didn't know what to do. I got about 8-10 hours into both games before calling it quits. I'd like to think I gave it an honest effort.
     
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  3. The Eye in the Sky!

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    That is a great post - I was looking into Pillars of Eternity after finishing the Witcher 3 because I heard it was deep, immersive and full of lore and characters. The only problem is that I watched a Let's Play type video of the beginning and it seemed like too much in the sense you just explained. I've talked to people that claim to hate any type of driving narrative in games and just want to explore on their own, which is fine for some games like GTA or Skyrim because they are accessible. You don't need to know anything about the background of the world to enjoy their setting.

    I bought Divinity: Original Sin when it first came out a couple years ago and ran into the same problem. People were calling it the best CRPG since Baldur's Gate 2 because of the openness and the choose-your-own-adventure quality to it, but I just found it to be overwhelming in a sense that I had no idea what to do after a while. There was no driving force to make me want to see where to go next.
     
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  4. Sigs Minock

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    ground up a Two-Fer Lucky Cannon in the grinder of Borderlands: Pre-Sequel and squealed with joy. still, it was only a lvl 52 and i'm almost lvl 60... want to get a better one.

    also, Trails of Cold Steel II has taken on a nigh Suikoden aspect-
    You have an airship with a skeleton crew, and you recruit people to man the ship.
     
  5. Quagmire

    Quagmire UofL Cardinals, NY Yankees, NY Giants Premium Member

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    I'm giving up on it. There is a lot of things going on, but I just got magic and its a terrible system, I don't want to have to rest after using spells or if I want to equip other spells. You can't just rest anywhere either.

    You may have saved me some money as Pillars is/was on my list given the developer and hoping for another story and world experience like I got in say Fallout 2 or New Vegas, which is also why I picked up Planescape
     
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  6. PsychoMantis

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    I'm in the same boat, I think I was at 3 exactly on my attempts to play the game. Someone will write an article detailing how Planescape is the greatest story ever written and I'm like "Ok maybe this time". Then I play it again and am reminded why I give up. But man the people who like those games, really like them. I just don't think I have the patience to bang my head against their obscure mechanics until it clicks.
    I think that is just a Dungeons and Dragons thing. All of those Infinity Engine games are based around DnD rules wherein some spells can only be used once a day and shit.
    I mean, with enough effort you may get there.
     
  7. Quagmire

    Quagmire UofL Cardinals, NY Yankees, NY Giants Premium Member

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    Getting deep into Morroblivion gave up on most of the side quests and am trying to finish the main quest and then probably the expansions, or more likely I'll take a break before hitting them up. I never did much with them the first time I play Morrowind

    I also love this game as a political simulator, to get people to vote for me I just have to bribe them
     
  8. Sigs Minock

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    Still plodding through Borderlands Pre-Sequel; and have been ignoring Trails of Cold Steel...
     
  9. Jon

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    I picked up a used copy of Homefront: The Revolution as a time killer yesterday.

    I heard it sucks something awful, but it's a time killer I can exchange within 30 days, which I'll do and get me closer to FFXV and CoD.
     
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    After playing the first game, there's no way I'm picking up the second one for anything other than like less than 5 bucks, especially considering it's supposed to be as bad as the first one.
     
  11. Jon

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    I had a five dollar off coupon and a 20% birthday coupon. It was a used game for $17 and being a Pro Rewards member at Gamestop means 20% off. The birthday coupon was 20% off the original price. So I got it for I think $6, or thereabouts. I'll return it within the 30 days, I'm sure, and get store credit for the original amount and actually MAKE money off it.
     
  12. Quagmire

    Quagmire UofL Cardinals, NY Yankees, NY Giants Premium Member

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    Finished Morroblivion's main quest a week or so ago, probably will dive into the two expansions next weekend

    Right now I'm playing Shadowrun Returns and I'm really digging it, I hear its sequel is a lot better and I already am enjoying this game
     
  13. Sigs Minock

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    I Am Alive is Free with Gold, so i'm going to be trying that game out.
     
  14. Jon

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    I finished the single player campaign for Homefront the Revolution last night. Honestly, I don't know what all the hate was about. It sure as hell wasn't the best game I've played, but it wasn't the worst either. I found the graphics spectacular and the story was pretty good. The characters were under-developed and the gunplay was terrible, but it wasn't awful. They whiffed on the customization, big, though as it really could have been something. By the time I finished, I had so much left over currency and nothing to spend it on, which I always hated in games. But overall, I'd rate it a 6-6.5.

    It was worth a couple days entertainment, though I don't recommend purchasing it as it has little replay value.

    Concept - Takes place in a future where the US got into debt with North Korea and they called in that debt, which US couldn't repay. Korea invaded and the city of Philadelphia builds a resistance to fight back.
    Graphics - Spectacular. The visuals are really nice. And given the awful reviews, I assumed graphics were going to be subpar.
    Sound - Voice acting was decent. The music didn't fully fit the tone, in my opinion.
    Controls - Movement was clunky, and the gunplay left a lot to be desired, including constantly missing shots and ADS being wild. Weapon customization could have been amazing, but there aren't a lot of options and others that didn't make sense (no silencer on a sniper rifle? Turning a crossbow into a cannon and still having a shotgun? Almost all guns using a laser sight and having an easier time hip firing than ADS?). They whiffed on something that could have really been cool.
    Entertainment Value - Some characters annoyed me as they were poorly conceived. The story wasn't terrible, overall. I've seen much worse. Overall, about 15 hours of gameplay in the campaign. I didn't delve into multiplayer, and have no real intent to, as the gunplay is what was weakest in the game, and that's what needs to be the strongest for me to consider MP.
    Replay - Low, moderately low. Completionists will have plenty to accomplish, but they are incredibly redundant.

    Overall - 6.25 (I was going to say 6-6.5 like above, but then thought, hey, 6.25 works)
     
  15. The Eye in the Sky!

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    I'm in such a gaming rut. I'm a little more than halfway through Uncharted 4 but have only played 2 hours of it in the last month and a half. Otherwise I haven't touched my PS4 or any system.

    I've been reading a ton of fantasy series instead, which got me to this epiphany that I think I only like RPGs now. These books are essentially RPGs where I don't have to actually play anything and can just follow the storyline.

    I hope I can get myself to finish up Uncharted, it is really cool and the game is super polished, plus the characters are awesome... but I just can't get myself to load it up. I think I need Persona 5 or FF15 or something RPGish.
     
  16. Klowny

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    Same here. Not impressed with the recent crop of ps+ "free" games, and unwilling to actually spend money on anything either. Doing a lot of reading instead. If you enjoy fantasy then I highly recommend The Malazan Book of the Fallen series by Steven Erikson.
     
  17. Sigs Minock

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    Well, playing I Am Alive I'm glad i didn't spend money on this game. the heavy grey-scaling, where it is thematic, but distracting- makes it hard to see where you're going. almost on the scale Silent Hill... but not as creepy. there's some coloring, but it's outwashed by the grey-scaling.
    Combat is aggravating. it says you can "press x to attack" nope. this game is all about non-confrontation, as bullets are limited. if you do engage someone is combat, his buddies can shank you to break you out of the struggle.

    I can't imagine playing this on the higher difficulty, as restarting from the beginning of every chapter would be beyond annoying without Retry.
     
  18. Quagmire

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    Finished Shadowrun Returns, I enjoyed it at first, and it hooked me right away until
    the bug part came along. It felt like a generic plot "twist" to have some greater more evil threat come about
    . I'm looking forward to the sequel as I hear its better in every way.

    I also liked the combat, but in dungeons, if you cleared out a floor or an area you stayed in combat mode which means you had to move your characters individually and only as far as their combat movement range was. Would have been nice to have unlimited movement if there are no hostiles detected
     
  19. dimmerwit

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    Same. Like some people said in the other thread I tend to spend more time reading up on and watching videos of games as opposed to playing them.

    I promised myself I wouldn't day 1 Civ VI due to the inevitable bugs, poor AI or whatever crops up. Cave after positive YouTuber impressions.

    Load at midnight just to have a quick peek. Play for almost 2 hours.

    Return from work. Play for just over 4 hours.

    Oops! #YOLO
     
  20. Quagmire

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    I tired to play Styx Master of Shadows, but I don't think I'm in the mood for a game where I need to be this patient

    Was going to go back to Super Mario Galaxy, but for what ever reason my save file was deleted. I wasnt super far in, second or third galaxy, but I don't feel like going back. I'll probably just jump to the sequel

    Starting Mark of the Ninja, really digging it so far, I was starting to crave a 2d platformer, and here we go
     
  21. Jon

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    I played the World of Final Fantasy demo this weekend. I'm actually excited for this. It's old school FF in a lot of ways, including an ATB! Honestly, if they use this kind of ATB in FF7 Remake, I may just be ok with it. Of course, they are promoting FF& with combat much the same way as FF15, but they promise an ATB of sorts. If they can weave World of FF type of ATB in for like specials, or limit breaks, I may get excited about it.

    I also played a lot of the Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare open multiplayer beta this weekend. Some stability issues, and the same issues that plague CoD for years are still there (like missed hit boxes, stupid Halo jumpers, and most importantly spawn zones putting your back to enemies)... but the most interesting change, and I don't think I can call it a good thing, is the idea of leveled guns. Each gun now has levels you can earn and buy. Similar to most games, they go from normal to grey to blue to purple to orange, adding unique powers to guns. I do NOT like it. It unlevels the playing field way too much. I'm not great at CoD MP, never have been. I'll hover around a 1.00 Kill:Death ratio, and typically a little lower (but not usually below .90). However, these guns take skill out of the equation too much. From things like lessening flinch (which is a game changer in CoD because anyone who has played knows, its all about the first bullet to hit; causes enough flinch to make the other person miss in one-on-one) to allowing you to shoot the gun while sprinting, it's available in addition to the perks, which stack with these effects making certain guns working death machines. The most powerful gun I saw, was an orange SMG with the ability to restore a small amount of life on each bullet hit. It may seem trivial, but it hits fast and in a one-on-one or when you have a few people, you become very hard to kill.

    The guns and their abilities need looking at in the two weeks until release. Too many times I had two kills and 17 deaths. A lot was the gun inequality. A lot was also the fact that for chains of deaths, I was being spawned right in front of an enemy with my back to him. Visually the game is remarkable. Gameplay itself hasn't changed in years. The modes are mostly the same (only a few available in the demo). I'm interested in the campaign and who this year's star is (following Kevin Spacey and Christopher Meloni; I've not looked into who it is this year). MP will give some entertainment.

    *EDIT* This year Kit Harrington (Jon Snow, Game of Thrones) is the star villain.
     
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  22. Sigs Minock

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    World of Final Fantasy would be interesting to play, if it weren't for the "Clod Tyke" hero and the chibi style of FF "favorites" eghh... pass. I'd honestly would prefer to play that over FFXV.

    That said, finished I Am Alive... and the ending was god awful. BECAUSE THERE WASN'T AN ENDING. Hero is trying to find family in the ruins of city after disaster. End of game, hero is talking into camera "I will find you" with a crying woman watching. seriously? WTF!
    Glad i acquired this game through "Free with Gold"- it's getting deleted asap. not worth going for 100% completion.

    urgh.
    That said, should get back into my backlog. Still have Dungeon Seige III to finish up; Trials of Cold Steel II, Tales of Zertiria, Atelier Shallie are all backlogged on my PS3.
     
  23. The Eye in the Sky!

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    I played the World of FF demo and thought it was very bland. I was hoping it might be something that I'd want to play but something didn't feel right about it.

    I finished up Uncharted 4 last weekend and I think it might have been right next to 2 as the best in the series. The ending was very good, my eyes watered a little bit. I've heard people knock the game for the last act but I thought it was fantastic.
    No supernatural elements, just a good old fashioned adventure and getting to see the characters 15 years later was pretty cool. Especially getting the little epilogue to play with Nate and Elena's daughter.

    There were definitely some awesome sequences, they all felt very familiar and the amount of times something can break and Nate nearly falls to his death is almost hilarious now a days. But they are still harrowing and a few specific spots, especially in chapter 11 were amazing. I feel like Naughty Dog got better at storytelling with this one. It definitely has a more cohesive and almost storybook feel to it than any of the games previous to it.

    Now we wait until November 29th - I've been watching the FFXV Brotherhood animes and reading up on the Kingsglaive stuff. Hearing previews of people who have played the first 10 hours of the game, it sounds promising. I will not preorder games but I might buy this one on release day.
     
  24. Jon

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    Finished the main campaign for Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare last night. I actually thoroughly enjoyed the CoD campaign this year. They blended the CGI really well with the game, and it flowed perfectly. I was hoping for a lot more out of Kit Harrington. But there was no climactic battle, and he wasn't in the game nearly as long as I would have hoped.

    The multiplayer is completely plagued by the same bugs it always is, and gun upgrades now are just... bad... they imbalance the early goings so much, and it's all RNG. People who bought the season pass are so far ahead of the curve because they get 10 rare crates, and as a result, better gun upgrades. The game appears to give precedence to upgraded guns. I've been in firefights and hit six bullets in a row and not killed a player (with a life bar you can see the segments kick away, too). But I die and in the death recap screen, you see that your opponent hits you with three bullets from the same exact gun, only upgraded, and you die. The imbalance is noticeable, as it was in the betas, and nothing was done. At the least there should be an average gun level and people are distributed based on it. The three or four games in a row I played with all people who had equal level and equipment as I had were the most fun and came down to the wire. All the others, the team with the better weapons always dominated. By about 30 points. (this is Team Deathmatch, which is all I really play until I learn the maps well enough).

    Zombies I tried out a little and it was actually kind of fun. In solo mode, I got to round 5 the first time (because I couldn't find the exit) and round 8 the second time because I couldn't get anything good out of the box.
     
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    I'm playing Titanfall 2. Campaign is really good so far, and I haven't got to what may people are saying is the best bit (I have no idea what that is).

    Shame it was killed in sales by BF1 and CoD.
     
  26. Sigs Minock

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    With Far Cry 3: Dragon Blood or whatever it's called, free with gold so i do plan on playing that once i download it.
     
  27. Gorge

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    I got that game a few years ago. The whole 80's action movie theme got kinda stale after a few hours and the game felt very repetitive. I still haven't beat it. Since its free though I dont see why you shouldnt try it. The first hour or so is really great.
     
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    Most Recently, Assassins creed black flag. Just got my hands on it and am wondering about easter eggs or neat things to do in it... My opinion; best pirate game so far.
     
  29. Jon

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    I was tempted to download that and play it, but ultimately felt I didn't want to play it. I loved Far Cry 3. The actual game had one of the best antagonists ever. I just didn't see appeal in that game. Honestly, I didn't see the appeal on any of November's Games With Gold. I did download one of them... but I don't even remember which, lol.

    It was easily one of the best Assassin's Creed games. It's second to only AC2, imo (and Brotherhood, but I am not counting the spinoffs). I don't remember any Easter egg things, but I actually always enjoyed the whale hunting. The historical pirates in the game are awesome too, especially if you, like me watch Black Sails on Starz, which I'm convinced happened because of this game.
     
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    Infinite Warfare has almost no player base right now. I think there are more players in Farming Sim 17 than IW.