RPG The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

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  1. Jon

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    The story is great, no denying that. However, in games, if you don't give the player a perk for playing then you're almost surely going to lose him at some point. Every single game gives the player a perk for leveling. I don't like grinding. I eventually quit WoW because of that. However, if I'm out doing a million quests, I want there to be some incentive to doing it.

    Whether it's a new perk, weapon, armor, character... something. For example, I'm playing MGSV at the moment. While there isn't "leveling" per se, there are a million quests and a LOT of traveling. But getting materials and money to build up your base and build new weapons is a LOT of fun. Witcher 3 did well with that until level 30. The trees are fun. But to simply plateau halfway through the game and have no reason OTHER than story to grind quests and story makes no sense. And I'm not the only one that feels that way.

    My personal opinion, however, is that if you enjoy the game without the incentive, then power to you. I, personally, want something for leveling and doing quests.
     
  2. Quagmire

    Quagmire UofL Cardinals, NY Yankees, NY Giants Premium Member

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    My biggest problem replaying this game is the decisions aren't very gray IMO especially when compared to previous games, especially in 1. Part of it is that is hard to role play as an evil guy as that isn't Geralt's MO. Most of the main quests seem to have a good and bad decision, but not like evil, just bad. On skellige
    on deciding the next ruler, the brother is just a horrible choice, maybe because I'm a diplomatic type person, but it is very black and white between the two choices
    and then King Radovid
    why would I ever help him? I can see ignoring the assassination plot line, but why would I ever support him? If the witches were mostly evil spare your couple friends, I could see it, but he's just a mad man
    compare this to the first game where there were some tough choices, I mean very tough choices, I don't remember too much about the second game though I think I'm going to replay it sometime soon.
     
  3. The Eye in the Sky!

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    The second one didn't have any real ways to play evil, I don't think... but there were more gray area decisions, particularly in the third act.

    Then again, the whole second act was completely different depending on a decision you made at the end of the first act.
     
  4. Jon

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    I agree, and the biggest issue in games like this is that during most non-decision scenes, you're pretty much seeing what the character is truly designed as. So if you choose to play it evil and take the evil extremes you mentioned in your spoilers, in the next scene, Geralt could be sitting there comforting someone.

    Don't know about you, but if I'm going to play the murderous jerk, I don't want my guy comforting anyone. Dragon Age Inquisition kind of fell into that trap too. It's a tough balance. But if I'm going around murdering random people GTA style, I want everyone to be petrified in any interaction with me.

    Not that I ever play this way... especially on a first playthrough. But taking GTA5 as an example, after beating the game the first time (for story as per my usual), the next time I play is cheat codes and total lack of humanity for society! That guy just bumped tripped me? BOOM! HEADSHOT!
     
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    These are mostly due to technical limitations than anything, especially if you decided to have a full case of voice actors over text. The advantage text with limited to no speech is that you can allow the player to make a decision in nearly every conversation, but even then its a lot of work to get all those possible decision trees fleshed out.
     
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    Oh, I know. But for the sake of continuity, it's frustrating.
     
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    From what I remember that sounds about right. 1 was the same way, lots of tough decisions. No major decisions felt like super easy to make

    The first two games had a lot more gray decisions, no major decision felt like a bad choice. Too many instances were one denominational, the major players didn't feel as complex and were too simple.
     
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    Just had one of the funniest scenes I've ever witnessed in a game
    So I told Yen I didn't love her anymore, and it hurt seeing how hurt she was from the news, well we go back to KM and she needs help restoring a megascope and shes in a bad mood because its not working and I just broke her heart, so she takes it out on Geralt, I poke the bear she yells at me and then get teleported into the middle of a lake
    this scene alone was worth replaying the game
     
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    Hahaha, that's awesome. Such a Yennifer thing to do. A lot of people didn't like her because of her general entitlement and attitude. I found her to be brutally awesome.
     
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    Oh I like her, I do hate hows shes strung Geralt along over the books, I did push it, told her I wasn't going to grovel after she confronted me about Triss. It is tough being a witch in their world and I think her tough exterior is a defensive mechanism, but she is pretty awesome. She's a strong personality, but I like it.
     
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    Having romanced Triss the first time through, I got this and the second I said it I said, "Oh crap...."
     
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    The scene where you all drink at KM, I think this is only open if you've pissed off Yen, not sure you can try and use the megascope to call other female witches to party, it's pretty hilarious and involves some cross dressing
     
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    Started playing the DLC, just ran into
    Shani! I picked her over Triss in Witcher 1 and was so sad she wasn't in the second or third one until now
     
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    Hmm.. I should probably grab the DLC... but I'm way more into reading the Mistborn Trilogy right now so I haven't even touched my PS4 lately.

    Let me know if its worth $10, maybe I'll grab it to play during winter.
     
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    So far it is worth it. I was a little on the fence at first as the main story of the DLC starts slow, but it picks up
     
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    I just beat a very tough boss in the DLC, a lot of fun, but kind of cheap as if he hits you, unless you have quen he regenerates when you lose health, and twice during the fight he'll summon spirits which he kills for health so you have to kill them before he does. It really wasn't that hard once I figured it out, and mostly had to be patient, can only get a couple hits in him at a time, it wasnt too bad, barely lost any health. Also did look online to find the right oil to use on my sword to help me out.
     
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    Just finished the game for a second time, got the best ending(well better)
    I liked the idea of Ciri becoming empress, I know she probably didn't really want it, but I have no doubt she'd make a great ruler, loved the little scenes at the end between her and Geralt leading up to it.
    Geralt also settled down with Triss instead of striking out with both women

    The DLC was very good too
     
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    Some people say the other ending is their favorite but I like the Empress ending more. Its bittersweet in that Geralt basically says that they will no longer be able to be together but it will benefit her greatly to do that rather than being a Witcher forever. She can do good for the world rather than live the life of a Witcher.
     
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    I can see the pros and cons of the other one, I think it fits with Geralt's life and such and the world will be better. I need to get on youtube to see the other ending, I got the bad ending the first time, didn't care for it. Don't see myself playing this game a 3rd time
     
  20. Gorge

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    After dragging my heels I finally FINALLY just beat Hearts of Stone. I'm not sure what everyone was talking about with the fights being super hard though, and I played the game on hard all the way through. If anything I thought the fights were better than in the main game, there was just the right amount of challenge to me. Kinda lame though that you only get the Venomous Viper Silver Sword in the last 5 minutes of the game when you dont even need it.
    I'll get Blood and Wine soon enough but probably give myself another break from the game.

    In other news I discovered my computer can handle Ultra settings and I didnt even know it. I had been running most things high but had grass density and texture quality at medium or high. This game is so damn pretty!