NHL The 2017 Stanley Cup Playoffs

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  1. Rick52

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    Lots of turnover this year. Only two different teams in the west, but five different teams in the East, including a completely different Atlantic Division bracket. Oilers make it for the first time in over a decade. Red Wings miss for the first time in two and a half decades. Five Canadian teams are in after zero got in last year (but five the year before).

    Division Semifinals

    Western Conference
    Pacific Division
    1. Anaheim Ducks: 4
    W1. Calgary Flames: 0

    2. Edmonton Oilers: 4
    3. San Jose Sharks: 2

    Central Division
    1. Chicago Blackhawks: 0
    W2. Nashville Predators: 4

    2. Minnesota Wild: 1
    3. St. Louis Blues: 4

    Eastern Conference
    Atlantic Division
    1. Montreal Canadiens: 2
    W1. New York Rangers: 4

    2. Ottawa Senators: 4
    3. Boston Bruins: 2

    Metropolitan Division
    1. Washington Capitals: 4
    W2. Toronto Maple Leafs: 2

    2. Pittsburgh Penguins: 4
    3. Columbus Blue Jackets: 1

    Division Semifinals
    Western Conference
    Pacific Division
    1. Anaheim Ducks
    2. Edmonton Oilers

    Central Division
    3. St. Louis Blues
    W2. Nashville Predators

    Eastern Conference
    Atlantic Division
    2. Ottawa Senators
    W1. New York Rangers

    Metropolitan Division
    1. Washington Capitals
    2. Pittsburgh Penguins
     
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  2. The Eye in the Sky!

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    Thank you Toronto for blowing a 2-0 lead over Columbus yesterday so the Bruins backed into Ottawa instead of Washington. Now we'll just die by multiple small stab wounds by a knife called the neutral zone trap rather than being shot in the face by a cannon that is the Capitals.

    Though - I've said multiple times this year - don't sell the farm, see how good the kids are on this team and how the veterans respond to Cassidy at coach. If they make the playoffs, cool - if not, at least we got a sense of what they are.

    So I do not expect them to get past the first round. And that is fine. If they do, please have Montreal beat the Rangers. THAT would be an interesting series.
     
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    Even if we've often seen a Montreal/Boston series, I'd rather see that again than having them face boring Ottawa.

    I think Montreal can beat the Rangers, if Kreider doesn't run over Price again!.
     
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    Yeah, I don't think NY will win the series. I don't trust Lundqvist in the playoffs and Price is due to actually have a healthy playoff run. And as much as I have to hate Montreal, I still do want Julien to succeed.

    Ottawa is so boring that I hate that they win games. I hate the stupid trap. It is the antithesis of what a modern NHL team should be.
     
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    Anyway, my predictions for the first round are the follows:

    Anaheim over Calgary
    Edmonton over San Jose
    Chicago over Nashville
    Minnesota over St. Louis

    Montreal over NYR
    Washington over Toronto
    Ottawa over Boston
    Pittsburgh over Columbus
     
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    I concur with this all except Pittsburgh. I pick Columbus. Because Crosby.
     
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    I usually pick Crosby, too, but I think they are expecting Murray to be like he was last year in goal and missing Letang is huge. He should have won the Conn Smythe last year.

    But with all of this against Pittsburgh, and Columbus being as good as they were all year, watch Pittsburgh win.
     
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    Also - the cup I want to see: Washington vs. Edmonton... only because I only got to see Conor McDavid play three times this year and was blown away each time.

    The cup we'll get: Pittsburgh vs. Chicago.
     
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    God I'd love to see Edmonton in there, but I hate Chiarelli too much.

    However, I will say this. Now a few years removed, I'm starting to think it was more Neeley than Chiarelli. Because otherwise, how can you explain McQuaid and Kevan Miller?

    I do think Chicago will be there again, and once again reinforce that you don't need an elite goalie to win in the NHL, and thus reinforce that I want Rask traded in the offseason.
     
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    I read something yesterday about the best strategy in sports and Edmonton really played their cards well. Basically just keep losing and somehow winning draft lotteries over and over until one of them is a generational type player, then start winning. Why didn't we think of that?!
     
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    Guess I also have similar first round picks.

    Anaheim over Calgary
    Edmonton over San Jose
    Chicago over Nashville
    St. Louis over Minnesota

    Montreal over NYR
    Washington over Toronto
    Ottawa over Boston
    Columbus over Pittsburgh

    I like seeing the Pens goalies fail and maybe St Louis can pull it off this year!
     
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    If only we had a player like Tyler Seguin...
     
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    YEAH BUT HIS TEAM SUCKS SO BY MY LOGIC SEGUIN SUCKS SO WE MADE THE RIGHT MOVE DOOD.

    It's so much nicer to have Ryan Spooner as our 3rd center than Seguin. At least he goes into the corners and plays defense.

    ... Wait a second... he doesn't do any of that!
     
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    I wouldn't have hated the Seguin trade as much if they got something in return. Like the Kessel trade turned into Seguin and Hamilton. Now they are both gone. Joe Morrow is the only piece of crap left from that trade (and it was 4 pieces of crap). The jury is still out of Senyshyn, Karlsson and Lauzon from the Hamilton deal.

    The problem is they got nothing for one of the most prolific players in the league. And the only excuse was off ice stuff. Dallas got that in check pretty quick, didn't they? Which just furthers the incompetence of the Bruins. But hey, whatever!
     
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    Well they won last night somehow. McAvoy was great in his debut as well. Started off a little shaky on his first shift but after that he looked confident and strong. Impressive for a 19 year old kid playing his first NHL game.

    Krejci not playing along with Krug, Carlo and then losing Colin Miller halfway through and they gutted out a great third period. I don't know how long you can survive without half of your defensive core (the better half)

    Marchand needs to be the best player all series. No excuses out of him after the suspension.

    Also Rask stole a game. That is what you need to do as a $7M goalie. He needs to play like that. He was phenomenal last night.
     
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    McAvoy was playing like he didn't know the stakes. But Ottawa is going to go after him Saturday. Let's see how he responds. They need him more than ever against that 1-3-1 bullshit.

    Marchand was tentative all night then got lucky in the right place at the right time for that goal. That suspension plus that bullshit reputation call on him in the first, you can see he's playing scared. Management ripped him after the cup check. His face after the penalty told the story. Normally he would be fired up after a bad call like that. That time? He looked scared. They are trying to neuter him like a dirty player. It's up to him to change and utilize his skills. Because while it may be fair to lump him in with players like Matt Cooke and Ulf Samuelsson, Marchand has something they didn't: skill. He can thrive. But will he?

    Rask stole a game. I still don't think he can do that consistently and I definitely don't think you need a $7M goalie to win in this league. Hell Anderson can still very likely win this series. Part of it is the trap, part of it is that you need to be just good enough. I still say they are better off moving Rask in the offseason, but I won't lie. I think he had a great game, and he was the main reason they won. That second period was brutal. If not for Rask, they don't win. How you go approximately 25 minutes consecutively without a shot and STILL manage to win the game, in the NHL, in the playoffs is beyond belief. If nothing else, that team showed its cajones under Cassidy. Because even the most staunch Julien supporter knows they don't win that game. If for no other reason than McAvoy wouldn't have played 25 minutes and it would have been the 4th line out the last 5 minutes.
     
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    McQuaid down now. That leaves them with this potential defense today:

    Chara-McAvoy
    K. Miller-Morrow
    Liles-Cross

    Still nothing good on Krejci or Krug either. Carlo is doubtful. I don't like the Bruins chances.
     
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    Ugh, that game last night was nuts. Down 3-0 then tied up. I just had a sinking feeling when the B's missed scoring chances in the third. I kept waiting for a breakdown that leads to a Sens goal. Tough "penalty" to seal the game, though. I don't have a good feeling about this series even if Carlo and Krug can make it back...

    Speaking of defense, McAvoy is awesome so far. Looks like he belongs already. Maybe he is a Zach Werenski type where he picks it up as a teenager. If so, the potential defense pairing for next year does sort of excite me.

    Chara - McAvoy
    Carlo - Krug
    K. Miller - McQuaid (C. Miller)

    I've been really impressed with Kevan Miller lately playing 3rd pair and I think I would like the Bruins to keep him now.

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    Chicago is down 3-0 so that's pretty awesome. And the Leafs are leading the Caps!
     
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    the Blackhawks get swept in the first round

    against the only team I have any rooting interest against

    that's great

    the Blues (presumably) are gonna get ruined by them too, I bet
     
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    *previous years*
    Oh boy, playoff OT! *anticipates*
    *this year*
    oh man, playoff OT again? *yawns*

    Code:
    Year	G7s	#Ots	#Gs	Percent	(First Round Only)
    1987	1	7	44	15.91%	
    1988	1	6	46	13.04%	
    1989	2	8	44	18.18%	
    1990	3	9	49	18.37%	
    1991	3	8	51	15.69%	
    1992	6	7	54	12.96%	
    1993	1	14	44	31.82%	(Gary Bettman becomes commish)
    1994	4	8	48	16.67%  (Change to 1-8 Conference Seeding)
    1995	4	8	49	16.33%	(Lockout year)
    1996	0	9	45	20.00%	
    1997	3	10	48	20.83%	
    1998	1	10	46	21.74%	
    1999	2	11	44	25.00%   (Division Realignment)
    2000	1	3	41	7.32%	
    2001	0	15	44	34.09%	
    2002	2	6	47	12.77%	
    2003	3	10	47	21.28%	
    2004	3	9	47	19.15%	
    2005	0	0	00	Undefined :(	
    2006	1	11	44	25.00%	
    2007	1	6	43	13.95%	
    2008	3	9	48	18.75%	
    2009	2	6	44	13.64%	
    2010	2	12	49	24.49%	
    2011	4	14	49	28.57%	
    2012	3	16	48	33.33%	
    2013	3	17	47	36.17%	(Lockout year)
    2014	3	14	48	29.17%	(Division Realignment & Change to Divisional Seeding)
    2015	2	10	47	21.28%	
    2016	2	7	47	14.89%	
    2017	0	18	42	42.86%	
    
    1987 was the first season the league used best-of-7 in the first round.

    There was only 42 games in the first round this year, the second fewest, yet there were a record 18 OT games in this postseason, making an astonishing 43% of this round's games end in OT. Also, no first round Game 7s for the first time since 2001 (just the third time since 1987).
     
  22. The Eye in the Sky!

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    That's crazy. 4 out of the 6 in games in the OTT series went to OT including a 2OT game.

    Yet it wasn't really exciting...

    I did a bracket on NHL.com before the playoffs started and I suck. I had Chicago, Minnesota, Montreal and Columbus moving on (I picked Pittsburgh here though). At least my pick of Washington to make the SCF is still possible.

    Predictions again:

    Edmonton over Anaheim
    Nashville over St. Louis

    NYR over Ottawa
    Washington over Pittsburgh (please?)
     
  23. The Eye in the Sky!

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    Still on the table!
     
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    Got 5 out of 8 in the first round, not bad!

    My second round picks are the same as Eye, so odds are we'll be wrong in at least 2 of them. ;)