MLB The 2016 World Series. Cubs just barely, barely, BARELY won, FINALLY

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  1. Rick52

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    Wild Card Round
    American League
    4. Toronto Blue Jays: 5 (11)
    5. Baltimore Orioles: 2

    National League
    4. New York Mets: 0
    5. San Francisco Giants: 3

    League Division Series
    American League
    1. Texas Rangers

    4. Toronto Blue Jays
    Toronto Sweeps 3-0 | (I: TO 10-1 TX) (II: TO 5-3 TX) (III: TX 6-7 TO (10))

    2. Cleveland Indians
    3. Boston Red Sox
    Cleveland Sweeps 3-0 | (I: B 4-5 C) (II: B 0-6 C) (III: C 4-3 B)

    National League
    1. Chicago Cubs
    5. San Francisco Giants
    Chicago Wins 3-1 | (I: S 0-1 C) (II: S 2-5 C) (III: C 5-6 S (13)) (IV: C 6-5 S)

    2. Washington Nationals
    3. Los Angeles Dodgers
    Los Angeles Wins 3-2 | (I: L 4-3 W) (II: L 2-5 W) (III: W 8-3 L) (IV: W 5-6 L) (V: L 4-3 W)

    League Championship Series
    American League
    2. Cleveland Indians
    4. Toronto Blue Jays
    Cleveland Wins 4-1 | (I: T 0-2 C) (II: T 1-2 C) (III: C 4-2 T) (IV: C 1-5 T) (V: C 3-0 T)

    National League
    1. Chicago Cubs
    3. Los Angeles Dodgers
    Chicago Wins 4-2 | (I: L 4-8 C) (II: L 1-0 C) (III: C 0-6 L) (IV: C 10-2 L) (V: C 8-4 L) (VI: L 0-5 C)

    The 2016 World Series
    The Cleveland Indians
    vs.
    The Chicago Cubs


    Chicago Wins 4-3

    (Game 1: CHC 0-6 CLE) | (Game 2: CHC 5-1 CLE) | (Game 3: CLE 1-0 CHC) | (Game 4: CLE 7-2 CHC)
    (Game 5: CLE 2-3 CHC) | (Game 6: CHC 9-3 CLE) | (Game 7: CHC 8-7 CLE F/10)​

    The 2016 World Series Champion, for the first time in 108 seasons, are:

    The Chicago Cubs!
     
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  2. shortkut

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    as long as boston loses, i will be satisfied. not happy, but satisfied
     
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    I too like the thought of Boston losing... but I'm biased...
     
  4. The Eye in the Sky!

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    I also want Boston to los-d'oh!
     
  5. Jon

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    I want Boston/Chicago, just for the storylines.

    But that Syndergaard/Bumgarner matchup? Winner takes all, loser goes home thing tonight? I shiver...

    Oh, but I want Boston to lose too. Fuck David Ortiz.
     
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    That game last night was electric. I've not watched much baseball at all this season but tuned into that one. What a game. Showalter is an idiot for not pitching Britton, especially against Encarnacion. He's a ground ball pitcher and they needed a double play or strikeout to extend the game.

    I mean, the guy has given up 4 earned runs all season.

    Four. That's insane.

    I am growing to hate Jays fans. They're just as obnoxious as Red Sox fans this past year. Before that? No one in the city even cared about the team. But I am glad they won so that they can play Texas. Bad blood is always fun.

    Can't wait for next year when Baltimore hits Encarnacion with a pitch for his home run celebration. /sarcasm

    Can't wait for tonight's game, either. A pitching god vs. an actual god.
     
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    Those Toronto fans were shitheads last year too. I thought Canadians were supposted to be nice people? Texas needs to crush those sons of bitches.
     
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    Love how fast Syndergaard works. Stays in the stretch and just bam bam bam, you're out.
     
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    This kind of baseball is too big for a single Wild Card game.
     
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    Well... that did it.
     
  11. Rick52

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    >Baltimore doesn't bring out their closer in a tie game late
    >gives up a three run homer
    >the Mets DO bring out their closer in a tie game late
    >gives up a three run homer

    On one hand, maybe its a stupid idea to bring out someone whose mentality is to hold leads to maintain a tie, but on the other hand its a stupid idea to bring out Ubaldo Jimenez under any situation.

    Also can we just the Giants the WS again already? they're going to upset the 103-win Cubs, guaranteed, they aren't losing to the Dodgers or Nationals, and whatever schmuck they get in the World Series are going to be Bumgarnered regardless. I say this, knowing is the future I dread the most.
     
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    This. This is exactly what I was thinking from the moment I heard he was brought into the game.

    This is what we all know deep down will come to pass, but in our heart of hearts we don't want to believe it.

    Also, Familia has to feel a lot worse than Jimenez. Familia, pitching in a familiar situation, in his own ballpark, gets taken deep by Conor Gillaspie of all people. Jimenez, on the other hand, pitching in an unfamiliar situation, on the road, with Encarnacion at the plate, and being and knowing that he is Ubaldo Jiminez, just sort of grooved a fastball right down the middle on the first pitch to reach the inevitable conclusion as quickly as possible.
     
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    Jimenez was playing pretty good ball over the last month. Last start was against the Jays and he pitched 6.2 scoreless innings.

    The mistake was leaving him in after he gave up the two hits. That's when Britton should have come in.
     
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    But before September his ERA was Buchholz-ian level so him pitching there is a mistake. I think you exhaust your bullpen before bringing starters in. They're out of their element, especially in the middle of an inning. And against the top of the order? You send out Britton. The top of that lineup is a murderer's row.

    At least with the Mets, its on the player. They put the guy in that should be in there to pitch with the game on the line. With the Orioles, you ride Britton for 2 innings, maybe more if you have to and if you lose, then its a little easier to swallow. If you best player fails, then it wasn't your day. If he doesn't even get the chance, thats on management and makes everyone angry.

    Also - I now want an alert and Mets broadcasting rights for any time Syndergaard pitches. He throws 99 mph so effortlessly. And a 94 mph slider? Thats not fair.
     
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    That was one of the worst pitches I've seen in a long time. A sinker from a right-handed pitcher left up and in to a left handed hitter? I know he missed location, but when did power begin to surpass accuracy for a closer?
     
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    The thing that sucks about the Mets losing in the Wild Card game is that we don't get to see Colon pitch in the playoffs this year.
     
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    This.
     
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    Indians are on to the ALCS. Boston starters couldn't make it beyond the 4th.
     
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    Yeah, they sucked. Cleveland's starters did well and then there was no getting past that bullpen.

    Oh well, I just hated that Ortiz's career ended with a sweep. But I'm rooting for Cleveland, now. Francona, Coco Crisp, Mike Napoli, Andrew Miller are all still cool in my book.
     
  20. Jon

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    The fact that the Red Sox superior lineup couldn't muster a single victory against a very banged up Cleveland rotation was staggering. But I was rooting for a sweep after Porcello's start. I knew Price was going to piss himself and Kluber shut them down. So losing game one when you had the potential Cy Young winner going against the #4 (or #5) starter on the Indians is a disgrace. I didn't even bother tuning into an out of game 3 with Clay freakin Buchholz starting.

    For a manager that is supposed to be an elite pitching coach, Farrell's pitching while being a manager in both Toronto and Boston have been atrocious. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that after he left Toronto, their starters (pretty much the identical group Farrell had) dropped by almost a full run after he left. That's staggering. It's time for Dombrowski to recognize he's a terrible manager, fire him, and bring in anyone (or, preferably, finally let Lovullo take over).

    {EDIT} Toronto Team ERA's

    2011 (with Farrell) - 4.32
    2012 (with Farrell) - 4.64
    2013 (without Farrell) - 4.25
    2014 (without Farrell) - 4.00
    2015 (without Farrell) - 3.80
    2016 (without Farrell) - 3.78

    In the same time frame, for comparison's sake, here's Boston:

    2011 (without Farrell) - 4.20
    2012 (without Farrell) - 4.70
    2013 (with Farrell) - 3.79
    2014 (with Farrell) - 4.01
    2015 (with Farrell) - 4.31
    2016 (with Farrell) - 4.00

    Sorry, but there's a trend here that cannot be ignored. Toronto's ERA raised in the two years with Farrell. Then each year since he left, it's dropped by nearly a full run, as I said. Boston's pitching wasn't good before Farrell, coming to a head with Bobby Valentine. But their ERA rose each year under Farrell save this year. There's no real reason it jumped a third of a run from 2013 to 2014, other than they lost Jon Lester and never replaced him. Team leader in ERA that yer (among qualified starters, of which there was only one, was Clay Buchholz... whose ERA was over 5...) There's a point when this is no longer a coincidence.
     
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    I was sure Boston wasn't going to be swept... I thought they would do anything they could to make sure it didn't end like it did. Tomlin pitching 5 innings in a playoff game without giving up a home run is pretty shocking, TBH.
     
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    lol Giants bullpen
     
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    Thank god the Giants are out. No more of this even year garbage.

    Go Cleveland v. Cubs so the midwest has something positive going for it for once.

    (I think Toronto is going to annihilate the Indians but I'm crossing my fingers)
     
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    Pretty sure that's the same thing that everyone said about the Boston series...
     
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    I think Cleveland will pitch a lot better than Texas did. This isn't going to be a cakewalk for Toronto. Cleveland has something going for them right now.

    I'm also hoping for a Chicago/Cleveland World Series with the Cubs emerging victorious.
     
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    That's true. Here's hoping history repeats itself.
     
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    Outside of the Cubs winning, this would be my favorite scenario. Two clubs with the longest WS droughts in the MLB, someone has to come out on top and end the suffering. Both clubs have plenty to look forward to in the future, too.
     
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    Question: If Cleveland can actually win the WS, and the city has two champions at the same time, do we prepare for the end of the world? Or will that only come if the Browns make the playoffs?
     
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    Please let Washington beat LA. I don't think I can stand anymore 5 hour games, two hours of which are Dodgers relievers warming up.
     
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    The World would come to an end if the Cleveland Browns faced off against the Detroit Lions in the Super Bowl.