Nintendo NX will launch globally in March 2017; Zelda to launch with it

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  1. dimmerwit

    dimmerwit Tremendously High Energy Member Premium Member

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    Well, Nintendo's financial results briefing has revealed that the NX is due for launch in March of next year after missing a planned late-2016 window.

    They've also confirmed the rumours that the new Zelda game will launch on the NX. It is still coming for Wii U and will "be the focus" of E3 2016. That said, the NX itself is not planned to be shown at E3.

    In terms of the results themselves, they were average. Nintendo is still profitable but profits and sales fell last year. Splatoon sold an impressive 4.27m and Super Mario Maker sold 3.52m.
     
  2. Rachel

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    I've been wondering for awhile now what direction they'll be taking next. We still don't have any info on the NX right? In terms of how they are planning to differentiate this console.

    Right now I think they're lucky they have the 3DS...we have a decent library of it at home. But we only have like four Wii U games. Smash alone probably carried that console for as long as it did.

    I feel sort of bad for the Wii U. I don't think they gave it a fighting chance with the game library. I liked the idea of a family being able to switch the TV to something else but the kid is still happy because the screen can show up on the controller. But geez I'm feeling burned because I only bought it like a year and a half ago. And that was with the understanding that it would be around for awhile. We can't lay down money for the NX so soon after the Wii U. I bet others feel the same.

    My main question is, what's next after Zelda. Yes, Zelda is big enough to move consoles (although it will be released for the Wii U). But they need to work on a library beyond it. I'm not hearing anything other than Zelda. Also, it sucks that there will be no holiday release. That could have really helped them.
     
  3. The Eye in the Sky!

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    Its sad that I don't even consider Nintendo anymore when thinking of games. It's always Sony and Microsoft, nothing else. I've wanted them to come back because their first party games are awesome, but not enough to justify buying a console for. Their idea of going casual to appeal to a little of everyone has turned out to be a bad idea and they should try to get back into just making something else... not even sure where they go from here. If they try to be more like Sony or Microsoft, they're already way behind. If they continue what they are doing, they could be the way of Sega.

    Although part of me would like to see Nintendo use their focus on making their amazing games even if not for their own consoles.
     
  4. Rachel

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    so maybe they should get out of the hardware business, at least for the console side.

    That would be weird and I also think competition is good, keeps all three on their toes. But they keep making mistake after mistake for this generation. I think they need to bring in some new management blood and also possibly take on new studios to fill the gaps between first party releases. Because, they need to focus on this next generation who doesn't remember the NES/SNES/N64 days.

    The E3 thing really is bizarre though. We'll get a presentation on an inferior version of the game for a dead console. At least the Gamecube already had a dedicated Zelda under its belt, and a strong library.
     
  5. dimmerwit

    dimmerwit Tremendously High Energy Member Premium Member

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    I can't see Nintendo withdrawing from the hardware market any time soon. Even with the poor sales they are currently achieving and development costs for the NX and presumably the 3DS successor they are still making money, they have a ton in the bank from the Wii days and Nintendo still has strong brand recognition and potential for another breakout success.

    I still find Nintendo appealing because the PS4 and Xbox One are now a lot more like the PC, which has almost always been my platform of choice. Not that there's anything inherently bad about that, but it does mean that I am more likely to buy Nintendo's consoles in the future. I think the Wii U has had a great lineup of exclusives even if it is disappointing that Zelda never made it before the NX.
     
  6. The Eye in the Sky!

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    Rachel makes a good point, though. Nintendo still resonates with us because we grew up with the NES, SNES, N64 and saw what they did back when gaming was still in its infancy. Newer generations that look at Gamecube as their first one are getting older as well and the newest generations will be seeing a company that was almost gimicky and lacked any kind of third party support or killer games that other consoles are getting.

    Eventually they might not be seen in a nostalgic/pioneering way and continue to be more of an afterthought.
     
  7. Quagmire

    Quagmire UofL Cardinals, NY Yankees, NY Giants Premium Member

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    Hopefully its backwards compatible with the Wii U, I would like to play Bayonetta 2, and Donkey Kong, but those are the only two exclusives that I'm interested in on the Wii U
     
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    To be honest, I am somewhat in the latter group. My first generation was really the N64/PS1 era, and whilst I did buy a N64 I only ever got exclusive games for it and the PlayStation was much more used. The N64 was when Nintendo's long term policies about third party games came back to bite them, with that plus the whole CD/cartridge issue leading to support mostly switching to the PS1. Whilst it's a lot different now and Nintendo did not have a gimmicky reputation back then, my generation was the first to see Nintendo soundly beaten in terms of sales, games output and arguably cultural relevance.

    That said, whilst Nintendo does face the whole gimmicky issue, they still have strong brands that resonate with people even if not quite to the extend that they did 10-20 years ago. The DS and to a lesser extent the 3DS are still very successful and the Wii was obviously incredibly popular even if it was a one-off that papered over deeper long term issues with their non-handheld business.
     
  9. Fool's Requiem

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    Nintendo just needs to stop with the gimmicks for their consoles. I don't think it's helping their cause.

    I've been finding it difficult to find a decent selection of Wii U games in stores. There's a store in my area that focuses on buying and reselling all things games, movies, and music, they have a shoddy selection of Dreamcast games and even they have more of those games than for the Wii U... even if the Dreamcast game selection is nothing but trash.

    As for backwards compatibility, considering the lack of titles on the Wii U, I don't think it would be cost efficient for Nintendo. What they need to do is make it so that their console can play DS and 3DS games like the Gameboy Player did for Gameboy games on the Gamecube. Obviously they'd need to figure out someway to remedy the touch screen problem, but I would actually by DS games if they did that...
     
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    I definitely don't think they should try to compete with Sony and MS in terms of having the best graphics, the most power. Sticking with family-oriented games is probably the best way to go out of their options.

    We were talking about this at dinner and an interesting theory was mentioned...the NX might be...a phone? Or some kind of phone console hybrid? It's true they are getting cannibalized by the phone game market. And the phone market is still booming in Japan. I can't imagine...? What do you guys think?

    I mean, obviously it will have some kind of gimmick to differentiate itself, it won't win through power, and its library would be weak compared to PS4 and Xbone. They have already said it will be unlike any console the company has on the market.
     
  11. dimmerwit

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    The rumour on that has been that the NX would be a combination of a (standalone) handheld and home console, based on how Nintendo merged their handheld and home R&D divisions a few years ago. I can't see it being a phone because I don't think people would buy a Nintendo phone and because I think Ninty's recent expansion into iOS/Android software is a more logical approach. But who knows?

    Also, the President's presentation is worth a look if anyone wants some info on how Nintendo is doing: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/160428/index.html . Many charts on how Fire Emblem is doing.
     
  12. Gorge

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    I can see why Nintendo has gone the route its has. I think after the inclusion of the Xbox into the marketplace and its similarity to the ps2 in just about every single way (plus better online support) they probably felt like they needed to stand out for the next generation and with the success of the DS they took that concept and applied it to consoles. Surprisingly it worked but at the cost of alienating everyone that plays game more than just casually.

    With the WiiU they obviously felt that continuing with that strategy was going to be successful, but i think the downside is that the super casual players they were going for with the Wii are probably not the type of people to upgrade to each new system each cycle. Why buy a WiiU if the Wii works just fine.

    Nintendo will need to drop trying to appeal to just casual gamers. This generation has shown its not a lasting strategy. What I think they need to do is make a console with better specs than both the XBone and PS4, and have a comparable online infrastructure. The challenge then is to make an online environment because the ones on PS4 and Xbox have had 1 and 2 other generations to develop and fix issues and add features. Basically Nintendo needs to drop the weird gimmicks and silly controllers and make a console as similar as possible to the PS4 and One, but the one thing they'll have that sets them apart is their first party games. They cant be beat, I think if Nintendo can get a good solid simple console on the market and manage to release 2-3 good first party games a year they'll be in good shape and gain back old players. Because really I just want to play Mario, Zelda, Metroid and Pikmin more than other console games on any system just not enough to buy a $400 console for.
     
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    don't forget about the "fourth console"...PCs. Hardcore gamers have a choice between Xbone, Ps4, or a decked out PC. Is there room for Nintendo in this area? My personal opinion is that there really is not. You can't rely on first party games forever. Meanwhile, casuals either keep the Wii, use their phones, or hell even just watch Lets Plays. They are in a hard position.
     
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    Over at reddit a lot of people a gaming PC and a Wii U given that most games you can get on a XB1 or PS4 are also on PC, but the Wii U games are exclusive to it which is great if you love Nintendo games, my self I've gotten board of the Nintendo formula. I grew up with Sega and then got a PS1 and eventually Xbox and then ps2 etc. I own a Wii, I don't use it much, I've done things to it that I can't mention here.

    I have a gaming PC, I will be getting a PS4 for the jrpgs I can't get on PC (FFXV, KH3 and Persona 5 (which I know I can get on ps3, but may as well get it on ps4 if the other two I cant get)). I'm undecided on the XB1, I doubt I'll ever get one, there are a couple games I'm interested in, but not as many as playstation and I have hopes that games like Crackdown 3 will get a PC port
     
  15. Fool's Requiem

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    I play most of my games on PC and the only "next-gen" console I have is a Wii U, which I really only got for Smash Bros... just like Smash Bros Brawl was the only reason I got the Wii. At least I know I'll get some quality games from Nintendo on their consoles, plus it's really the only console(s) left that continue to have a bunch of exclusives unlike the Xbox and Playstation whose libraries are mostly multi-platform games, most of which are released on PC too.
     
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    I should have done that in hindsight. Hey ho.
     
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    So it goes?

    Vonnegut?
     
  18. Gorge

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    Like @Quagmire says I'm one of those that has a PC and would consider a Nintendo console since I can get most xbox/ps4 games I want on PC. With Nintendo I have an interest in any main Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pikimin game. I think the first party games for Nintendo do have enough to differentiate themselves and have staying power. I mean they've gone on for over 25 years and I dont think anyones really tired of them.
     
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    I think this is the key. So long as Nintendo has exclusive rights to franchises like Mario, Sonic, Zelda and the like, there will ALWAYS be an interest.
     
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    I do, which is why there are only a couple games on the Wii U that interest me.
     
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