Mass Effect: Andromeda - 3/21/17

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  1. Jon

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    So, this has been given a release date now, of March 21, 2017. I know it's been delayed and pushed back and had some staffing changes occur that scare off people, but the new gameplay video shown at the NVIDIA CES 2017 keynote has me REALLY excited for this game.

    There is no "official" release video of yet, that I'm aware of, but here's a capture of it from a source I trust for authenticity (the site anyway):

    https://www.vg247.com/2017/01/05/ma...es-2017-keynote-tune-in-right-here-right-now/

    It really looks good. The design, the movements the dynamic class changes... they took a lot of what was good in ME Trilogy combat and made it better. And then they improved on the areas that were bad (yay for no more shared cooldowns!). Now, I am still unsure of the story gameplay. I don't know if they are planning another trilogy where choices carry throughout the series, or even if they have decisions that affect the outcome of the game (though I'd assume so, since that's a core of not ME, but EA/Bioware in general).

    I've always been a big Mass Effect fan from the start. It's one of, if not, the most favorite series of mine, up there with Fallout, Assassin's Creed and Final Fantasy. So hopefully, this continues to compel me, because I am officially psyched about this game more than any other in recent memory. I was hyped about FF, but knew it was likely going to be a let down. This game is beyond hyped. I'm at psyched level. **Crosses fingers**
     
  2. The Eye in the Sky!

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    They just released a new cinematic trailer and it looks... good. For some weird reason, I thought the game wasn't an RPG and more of like an action game since I'd only heard about classes/battles - I'd just dismissed it. This trailer makes it look like it will have more story than I expected. Color me intrigued.

     
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    Mass Effect has always been built around it story. The trailer released today has actually taken off the hype train. It was a first look at a lot of the characters and man... they impressed. It looks amazing. I've not been expecting it to be the best game in the series, but it's got a fantastic story.

    "I don't need an army. I've got a krogan" is already trending. And I'm in love with the delivery of that line.

    PS - If anyone watched the old TGIF show Step By Step with Suzanne Summers....

    Peebee is voiced by Christine Lakin, who played Al on the show. And more than a few boys had crushes on her tomboy character... myself included.
     
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    Where can I find more info on the characters? I can't seem to find anything on the ME website and the trailers are hard to follow.

    And agreed with the Al comment. Dana and Karen were terrible and I hated them. Al was the jam. :)
     
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    There's a scene in the newest trailer where Peebee is yelling to Ryder to run, and I can distinctly hear her voice. Brought me back. Lol.

    As for the characters, Bioware has been remarkably tight lipped on everything they don't want you to know. However, they released at the same time as this new cinematic trailer, a new briefing. Briefings are a set of six (four released thus far) videos, that when you watch them logged into EA, you'll be rewarded with a special in-game Pathfinder helmet. A nice little touch.

    The first briefing was an introduction to the Andromeda Initiative: the in-game team assigned to travel to the Andromeda galaxy.

    The second is about the Arks and the Nexus. The Nexus is the new Citadel which is being primarily constructed in the Andromeda galaxy. The Arks are the four ships each carrying one of the council races (Asari, Salarian, Turian and Human; the human ark is called Hyperion and is the only one we know to be named at this point).

    The third briefing gave more information about the Tempest (Andromeda's Normandy) and the Nomad (the revamped all terrain vehicle upgraded from the Mako of Mass Effect 1).

    The fourth briefing, which as I mentioned was released concurrently with the new cinematic trailer, was about the Tempest crew. It gives a little history and backstory of:

    • Alex Ryder - the PCs father and leader of the humans in Andromeda rivaling Shepard in skills and experience; he's also a scientist, which Shepard was not.
    • Liam Kosta - he's the equivalent of James Vega from what I can tell. He's called an idealist.
    • Scott and Sarah Ryder - the playable characters in the game. They are twin and you play as one, while the other remains in the game, but not playable, which is cool. Both were only Alliance recruits. Scott was on Arcturus Station and Sarah was part of the Prothean research team. More on this in a second.
    • Cora Harper - LT of the Tempest and Alex Ryder's second in command. She's a biotic human that spent time training with Asari Commandos.
    • SAM - Simulated Adapted Matrix. He's the new EDI, developed by Alex Ryder. What's interesting is it's explained that neural implants within each crew member interface directly with SAM. In particular, it's what allows Ryder to change classes and specialties on a whim. All crew members get implants, but it appears as if only Ryder's implants allow him to enhance parts individually which allows him to specialize in more than one class.

    Other than those (all human, minus the AI) we know there are also several other crew members via videos and leaks, but we don't know anything more than name, race and gender.

    • Drakk is a male Krogan. I'd assume he came on the Nexus. But he's supposed to be more aged and experienced than even Wrex. We saw him in another trailer.
    • Vetra is a female Turian. That's literally all we know about her at this point. We've also seen her in the same trailer as Drakk.
    • Peebee is an Asari (obviously all female). She's a kind of rebel and a polar opposite of Liara. We've seen her as well in several trailers.
    • Jaal is an Angara. A new race we meet in Andromeda. Jaal appears female, but I'm not 100% sure on this. If the voice speaking when Scott meets Jaal in the newest trailer is Jaal, then Jaal is female.
    • Kallo Jath is a male Salarian. He is the pilot of the Tempest. He replaces the iconic Seth Green as Joker. Not playable that I'm aware of.

    That's who we're aware are crew members. Other than that we're also introduced to the Archon, the main antagonist in this game. He is probably Kett (the new antonistic race in Andromeda), but he has some feature unique to him, such as the bone halo. Other Kett do not have this. But they are also bone-like in nature, so my assumption is Archon is Kett. His name also explains why they decided to change the name of the expedition from Arkcon to Andromeda Initiative.

    One big question I have is that Alex Ryder is clearly what they want as a Pathfinder. Explorer, scientist, diplomat and soldier all in one. However, he isn't the PC, his children are. His children were Alliance recruits. No experience as explorers. Scott is more a soldier and Sarah more a scientist. Neither is both. Yet, something happens to Alex that makes his child the new pathfinder. Which makes no sense to me thus far. Why wouldn't it pass to Cora, who is second in command and clearly more suited to the role? I know part of it is because it makes sense from a game point of view where they need both male and female and this is cooler than just making you choose like with Shepard. But logistically, right now, there is no reason why Scott or Sarah would become the Pathfinder. They are young, impetuous and ill-suited and inexperienced to do the job. If this was just another mission, sure, fine. Let a cool story play out. But this is the fate of races in a new galaxy where people don't want you there. It's played off as vitally important because the Reaper may kill everyone, and this is the way to save all these races. Why entrust that to inexperienced kids?

    *Also, why, if these races can figure out intergalactic travel, why can the Reapers not just follow them? They are significantly more advanced.

    This is a link to the Andromeda Initiative briefings, if you're interested. - Each video is around 2 minutes long. As I mentioned watching all 6 prior to release while logged into EA will give you a helmet. As far as I'm aware, you do not have to pre-order for this bonus.

    - That is just the fourth briefing on the crew.

    - That is the other trailer I mentioned. Vetra and Drakk are seen around the 1 minute mark.
     
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  6. Quagmire

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    I'm cautiously optimistic about this title

    Loved the original series, but I felt like ME3 got away from what made 1 and 2 great. Even if its a good game, I'll most likely be somewhat disappointed given just how great ME1 is and what a next gen experience it felt like, moments in that game just gives me chills thinking about it
     
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    The trailers do a better job when they're focusing on story/character. Thanks for the big write-up.

    I hope there's explorable environments like the Citadel from the first game. I was disappointed they left it out (mostly) in ME2 and 3. I'm talking more about urban areas, since I know they are reintroducing more open levels using whatever the new Mako is called. I didn't enjoy them in the first game but the concept has so much potential.
     
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    I felt ME3 was a great game. But that ending was just woof. I'm playing the series over and over, even now as nothing else is interesting me. When BC was released for X1, ME1 was immediately available to me as I have the digital copy. I replayed it 3 more times, before moving onto something else. Now ME2 and ME3 are BC as well. I just finished an Engineer Insanity walkthrough of ME2 with a Femshep. Please don't try that at home... lol. I've finished ME3 3 times, but never as Femshep, so I redid 2 with one of my ME1 Femsheps. I just never finished ME3 with Kaiden alive, so I wanted to do that once. Wanted to finish up my achievement for Insanity Lair of the Shadow Broker too. The games are great. Just a bad ending that takes away from it. ME3 Citidel DLC is one of the most fun DLCs I've played. It does the camaraderie thing better than anything in FF15, which was its staple.

    No problem. I love ME. I'm big into video games, stories, RPGs, space, science, etc. This combined a lot of my favorite things into one series. So while it's not my favorite GAME, it's my favorite SERIES. Once I start talking about it, I have a hard time shutting up about it.

    The good news is that MEA is focusing on one cluster in the Andromeda galaxy, from what I've seen. If it is beyond that, I've not seen it yet (or heard about it). Basically, they are focusing on the equivalent of the Sol System. They've also said they are making the worlds fully explorable. And the Nexus is the Andromeda Citadel that should be explorable and upgradeable. While I doubt they'll have a lot of city like exploration (because they are new to the Galaxy, so they haven't really built much yet), the stuff that is able to be explored is very in depth. It's open world and I'm sure there will be a lot of places like Illium and Omega from ME2. ME3 for the most left the exploration out. You could visit these places, but not really explore them. Except the Citadel. The Citadel in ME3 was the best hub in the series, in my opinion. I would love more like that in MEA.
     
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    The Citadel DLC is amazing

    I don't think its the ending...I think it was just the more narrowed focus, by the time we hit ME3 the end goal is in sight, the discovery and planning of ME1 and 2 are no longer needed, though it still makes no sense that Shepard was removed from command before the events of ME3.
     
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    Firstly, I didn't really feel it was narrowed. I liked that it closed all the open story lines from the first two games. The Rachni, Genophage, Geth/Quarian War, etc. It spent so much time bringing you to all these places, that the ending being as dull as it was, killed people's emotions because NONE of the time spent matters.

    As for Shepard being removed from command, it does and it doesn't. There was canon being written simultaneously. But if you played the Arrival DLC, you know why it happened. After the Suicide Mission, Shepard broke from the Illusive Man and Cerberus. After Arrival, Shepard destroyed an entire Batarian colony to slow the Reapers down. In the end scenes of that DLC, when Hackett debriefs Shepard in person, he mentions there will be political backlash for that choice. Hackett even says something along the lines of, "do what you have to do for your current mission, but when they come calling, make sure you're there with your dress blues on." So that's what happened. Shepard was basically being court marshaled and grounded while they investigated the blowing up of the Alpha Relay.
     
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    I did play the DLC and I remembered it explaining it, but don't remember the actual reasoning, it still reminds of Jack Bauer in 24, after awhile, just trust him (or her if fem Shep), their track record speaks for itself
     
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    I get it. But he was also being associated with a terrorist cell that committed a lot of crimes. If you didn't play the Arrival DLC, it's explained that Shepard is grounded because he's being investigated for his ties to Cerberus. All-in-all, the council (both human and alien) rejected Shepard's "theory" on the Reapers until the very end. That's why everyone was ill-prepared. Shepard turned himself in to the Alliance after the events of ME2. Again, in the Arrival DLC, Hackett tells Shepard that eventually he'll have to face the music, and when that happens, to make sure he's there in his dress blues. That's exactly what happened.

    As a side note, this being the first time I'm doing a full FemShep run in ME3, I'm finding more and more the game was made for a male Shepard. Some lines and character animations just don't fit FemShep... which sucks because I feel Jennifer Hale is doing a better job delivering the lines than Mark Meeks.

    Another side note... my FemShep? Romanced Kaiden in ME1, and Thane in ME2. Planning on going back to Kaiden in ME3. Mainly because Thane is my favorite character and I knew he dies in ME3, making the leap back to Kaiden easier. However, that first exchange on the Citadel in ME3? AWKWARD! So, Shepard runs into Thane first in the hospital (on her way to check in with Kaiden). He calls her siha, rekindling his love for Shepard and telling her that his Kepral's Syndrome has gotten worse and that his time is nearly up. She kisses him and basically tells him to shut up. She says to go somewhere private and let's assume they do. Heartwarming. Next she goes to visit Kaiden. He immediately starts talking about how he's sorry for being a jerk on Horizon (in ME2) and that it's only been Shepard and he still loves her. Then asks her about a rumor he heard about Shepard and "an assassin." In an awkward response moment, Shepard buries her head in her hands and proclaims that she never meant to hurt Kaiden and that they were just so far apart. It was really uncomfortable to witness. I'm not going to lie. I'm hoping I can play them both until Thane dies and then I can just rebound with Kaiden. It's the first time I romanced someone different in ME2 that I have to deal with this uncomfortable moment (to get the achievement in ME2 originally, I romanced Liara in all three games, thanks to the LotSB DLC). My choice to romance a terminally ill squadmate is killing my heart!
     
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    I always let Kaiden die, even as Fem Shep, I think I only went after Liara as Fem Shep, and of course Kelly Chambers in ME2!
     
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    I romance the human options in the replays. Only Liara in the ME2 playthrough for the achievement. But then again, I'm usually male Shepard. However, I'll say Kaiden is a MUCH better character than Ashley, in my opinion. Ashley is a whiney, condescending, racist bitch most of the time. Kaiden is headstrong and confident. Honestly, the scene in ME3 with Priority: Citidel when Udina betrays everyone. God, Kaiden's execution was a MILLION times better than Ashley's. I would save Kaiden 10 out of 10 times now. Not least of all he's an incredibly useful biotic with good moveset (I finally unlocked Reave in ME3...). Ashley is a soldier reboot and rendered useless in ME3 with James Vega.

    Just my opinion.

    *EDIT* Kelly Chambers and Samantha Traynor.... yum... FemShep in ME3 with Traynor. Good lawd....
     
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    If you invest in Ashley, she develops quite a lot over the series, can't speak about Kaiden

    In a game of Fuck, marry, kill no matter who are the choices, I will always marry Liara
     
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    I have, but I find the most used squadmates to be complimentary, and Ashley never seems to be. In ME1 if Shepard is a Soldier, she's useless. If Shepard is a biotic or tech, Wrex is a better tank as a Sentinel. Then the second squadmate is usually Garrus as a sniper or Liara as a biotic/CC. She's not in ME2. In ME3, again, if Shepard is a soldier, Ashley is useless. If Shepard is a biotic or tech, you usually want Garrus for range and and either Javik or Liara to detonate/CC. Liara is better biotic for CC, but Kaiden is remarkable for damage. My FemShep is an Adept, and now that Kaiden is in my party, I usually bring Garrus with us for an extra overload, but there are times I'll bring Javik against Reapers (since they usually lack shields, and my Energy Drain is more than enough to deal with the Marauders) for his Dark Channel... it's amazing what happens. When I fininshed my ManShep run as an Engineer, I never brought Ashley. If I needed a "tank" I brought Vega because he's got better moves.

    I don't blame you! My original runthroughs of ME series was as an Infiltraitor ManShep that romanced Liara throughout.
     
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    When I play, I usually use my favorite characters since its not really a hard game unless I'm playing on a harder setting, but my favorite party is Garrus and Wrex. I don't think I used her that much, but I did like her as a character as she developed...especially when you run into her in ME2 and romanced her in ME1, quite a wonderful scene on Horizon
     
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    I always carry Garrus and switch the third person in and out. It was often Tali in 1, Miranda in 2 and Liara in 3.
     
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    It is, but Kaiden delivers it better. In ME3, it's amazing to me how much I hated Ashley just because of how whiny she is. Kaiden doesn't come off that way.

    That a lot of tech in ME1. Even if you were an Adept, you lack combat with that setup. ME1 was very easy to keep balanced and there weren't really "abilities" that separated someone like in ME2 or ME3.

    Not that any of the ME games were truly hard, but I did find balance a lot easier.