Fallout 4

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  1. Northern Lights

    Northern Lights Perfection '11 Moderator Premium Member

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    I use VATs as often as possible and then, when I can't, end up backpedalling frantically hitting the trigger. :D
     
  2. dimmerwit

    dimmerwit Tremendously High Energy Member Premium Member

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    I am very partial to a nice bit of red raider goo.
     
  3. dimmerwit

    dimmerwit Tremendously High Energy Member Premium Member

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    Wow. Dat story.

    Spoilers for the mission "Institutionalised"

    Dayum. I knew as soon as he walked into the room, because he looked so familiar. I presume it's based on your combined appearances.
     
  4. Operative #19

    Operative #19 Kept ya waiting, huh? Premium Member

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    Ive really been loving the game. Ive stayed up from 12am til around 6am every night this week with the game and haven't even made it to Diamond City yet. Ive been doing side quest and settlement stuff. It's so easy to get lost in something for hours on end, whether it's funding supplies for your settlement or looking for a particular item you need to upgrade your gun. Eventually I'll focus on the main story but I'm having fun right now taking my time through the game.
     
  5. Gorge

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    So ive been on vacation the past week and havent been able to download it on my PC until possibly tomorrow.

    Reviews are good but i'm hearing people say the game speed is tied to the fram rate of your PC. So if you have a bitchin PC running 90fps then you walk and swing and shoot all in turbo speed (and if you ahd low fps youd do everything slow). Is this true, is it a bug, has bethesda said anything? I also heard reports that if you sprint it only takes 11 minutes to walk across the entire game-world is this true or possibly tied to the frame-rate/game speed issue? I cant find much talking about it in any official review.
     
  6. The Eye in the Sky!

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    I passed on the game. I've been enjoying watching people play it but I just don't have the energy to take it on. I love that some stupid mods are starting to come out. Those videos are the best.
     
  7. Quagmire

    Quagmire UofL Cardinals, NY Yankees, NY Giants Premium Member

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    While I'm waiting for this to drop in price, same with NV's Deluxe edition, I'm going to be starting Fallout 2 either today or tomorrow. I'm pumped!
     
  8. Grave_Digger

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    So, this game is fantastic. The Pip-Boy edition was not worth the money. Plastic hunk of garbage.
     
  9. dimmerwit

    dimmerwit Tremendously High Energy Member Premium Member

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    Yeah. I haven't played as much as days 1 and 2 due to actual life and stuff but I'm about 20 hours in and loving the game. There's nothing quite like Fallout. And as I said before, there is a neat twist in the story that I thought was really cool.
     
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  10. Gorge

    Gorge is robbing a gun store with a knife. Premium Member

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    Got it today and put a few hours in. Spent may be an hour alone just on character creation. PC controls feel a little clumsy, and the graphics look dated by about 2-3 years but that doesnt totally ruin the game. So far the only thing im disappointed with is the lack of keybinding customization and barely there control settings.

    Right now I feel a little overwhelmed with even the possibility of the base creations. I've hardly gone 100 feet and i've already come across two different buildings with workshops that I assume you can build up with defenses.
     
  11. dimmerwit

    dimmerwit Tremendously High Energy Member Premium Member

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    I think I have 8 or 9 locations by now. That said, they can be pretty much ignored if you want.

    As for PC controls, there is a little clumsiness e.g. when you're speaking to somebody and they move, removing the prompts. But it's made up for by the excellent shooting. Seriously, for me if the combat was the only improvement over Fallout 3 I'd be satisfied.
     
  12. Jon

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    Yeah real life has been a bitch. I went home early from work last Thursday (haven't been feeling well for about a week and a half; and a tournament in dek hockey Saturday has deflated me considerably) and played for about 4 hours that day, total. Most I've been able to dedicate. I'm about 9-10 hours in. I'm enjoying it a lot. Have mostly stayed main quest thus far. Knowing the game continues after the last main quest has allowed me the desire to save side quest stuff (of which I know I have about 7 quests waiting just right now). But I'll probably switch that up soon and do some side things.

    Eye, Fenway Park is awesome. That alone is worth the buy.
     
  13. Jon

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    By the way, I think this was done purposefully so that you could legitimately walk away from conversations, as they said you could. I actually like that feature because it allows me to turn away and switch to my charisma gear for speech checks without the need to reload. It gets annoying though when you're trying to pickpocket someone and the speech choices show up and not the pickpocket option. But it's still handy, to me.
     
  14. Gorge

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    I think im screwing my character build up. I dont know what perks to pick and have too many points spread out. Anyone know if there's a way you can redistribute points, like a merchant or special potion like in Witcher 3?
     
  15. Argh

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    I'm gonna pick it up when it's on sale. I can wait.
    Gotta have a better storyline than water filtration...
     
  16. dimmerwit

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    There's none that I know of short of using the developer console on the PC version. I've never found this to be a particular problem, since you can now put points into SPECIAL stats as well. I neglected Charisma a bit too much but a few levels on and I repaired the damage.

    I've found the perks to be quite flexible. Lockpicking and hacking are two that I went for ASAP but aside from that I don't think there's a stand-out one. Maybe the one in charisma if you want to build supply lines.

    Yeah, just a bit!
     
  17. Jon

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    There is no way to redistribute points. And as dimmerwit said, there isn't a real need for it. I'm personally around level 14 I think, and I've been mostly stockpiling my points. I've added a point in both strength and charisma to boost carrying capacity and speech checks (for the XP; I also keep a charisma set of clothes on hand), respectively. I've also invested in hacking and lockpicking and rank ones of each of the perks allowing the creation of rank 1 mods. Other than that, I'm hanging onto points to invest as I go. I also tend to quicksave a LOT.

    It's significantly better. The one qualm I have is at times when you want to use the sarcastic response, but they are asking you a sensitive question. To move the conversation forward, you need to answer honestly. So when you give a snarky response like, "I'm a flying monkey" but HAVE to select an emotional, "I'm looking for a lost love"-type of response... it's not really fitting. But small qualm.
     
  18. Argh

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    That was the same in 3. I've never felt the need to use the snarky responses, other than to see the reactions but I'll reload and use the "proper" response. Exception being the Survival Guide that has different effects based on your responses - though I've forgotten how.
     
  19. Jon

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    I've gotten too used to Mass Effect where it feels like every choice you make in speech matters. Some of the sarcastic remarks are quite amusing. Which is why I choose them. Only effect it has on FO4, though, is certain companions dislike it.
     
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    I was just browsing Nexusmods. FO4 has 1,426 files and 3.49m DLs. That seems crazy fast to me.
     
  21. dimmerwit

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    Up to about 50 hours. I finished the "main quest" a while ago but haven't yet progressed further because I want to do more stuff with each faction first.

    Still enjoying the game immensely, and as a pleasant surprise I haven't had a single noteworthy bug in that 50 hours.
     
  22. Gorge

    Gorge is robbing a gun store with a knife. Premium Member

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    I havent had any bugs either aside from one crash. I dont know how many hours im into the game but I've hardly touched the main story and pretty much just wander around doing occasional minute men settlement quests. Which I spend a lot of time messing around with my settlements but dont make much progress.

    Watching BoS vertibirds get in fights with raiders is pretty fun, or even better when they tried to attack the Satellite Array and lost 2 back to back.
     
  23. Argh

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    Started Fallout 3 again. Is there something I was supposed to do on a Windows 7 machine to make it run smoother?
     
  24. dimmerwit

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    Maybe try this, even if it's not crashing - http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2825612

    I had to do that because at a certain point it kept CTD-ing. Eventually I got it working flawlessly.
     
  25. Argh

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    Yeah, I remember doing a few of those steps before. And I too had it run perfectly at some point.
     
  26. Jon

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    Yeah, the Minutemen settlement quests can get tedious for someone like me. I like to clear my quest log before moving onto main quests. Those keep showing up when you turn them in, so I get frustrated, lol. I finally hit a lull with them, and now I'm hit with MILA quests from Railroad... lol.

    I do find the battle lines to be interesting, though. I finally committed myself to being an enemy against one faction. I was playing all four sides of the ball until just yesterday (Minutemen, Railroad, Institute and Brotherhood of Steel). I finally had to make a choice of BoS or the Institute. I chose to abandon the BoS... right after I hijacked Dr. Li from them, no less... didn't finish Liberty Prime though (and good to see him back, linking a bit of FO3 in!).

    I find myself holding an order of things for the 4 factions. I was glad my first choice had my 4th place faction in it, BoS. I feel, thus far, that each faction has at least noble intentions somewhere, except the BoS.

    The Railroad is focused on synths and don't care for the Minutemen because they believe they won't help synths when it matters at the expense of organic life; nor do they care for the Institute because they think the synths are brainwashed slaves.

    The Minutemen have all citizens in mind, but don't care for the Institute or their synths because they are kidnapping boogymen; they don't care for the Railroad because they are only focused on synths at the expense of citizens.

    The Institute doesn't care for the Railroad because they feel they are stealing their property and forcing the synths to become destructive; they don't care for the Minutemen because they resist being kidnapped; they hate the BoS because they oppose everything about the Institute, and do it violently. Not to mention my son is their leader, is dying, and has named me successor without me even fully supporting their cause... need more than that to abandon the reason I set out from the vault to begin with...

    To me, the BoS are the same they were in FO3: whiny, egomaniacal, self-centered, self-aggrandizing asshats with a superiority complex. They hate the Institute because they think they are abusing technology they know nothing about and think they are the reason the nuclear war broke out to begin with and would do it again. I don't see conflict really with Railroad or Minutemen, but I also don't see them reaching out to assist them. They are a warmongering faction. I, personally, had no qualms siding with the Institute over them. I didn't like Maxon an iota and Danse seemed whiny: his reaching his neck out for me line really put it into perspective.

    I like the Minutemen and they appear to be the moral choice. But they seem incapable of doing ANYTHING without me like a clingy ex-girlfriend.

    I like the Railroad's cause (probably intended, but they are an underground faction that secretly ushers out an oppressed race... anyone else catch that irony?). But I also see a bit of Terminator syndrome with the synths, so I'm torn.

    The Institute is an emotional tie. They aren't violent (unless provoked), and they are mischaracterized a bit by the other factions (kidnapping, boogymen, violent) but they have all the tendencies. I don't like that they are replacing humans, but they want to preserve people's memories in synthetic life. Not overall a bad idea... but not something that should be forced. And, as mentioned above, an emotional connection to them remains.

    Fuck the Brotherhood of Steel! Although I miss Liberty Prime... :(

    I don't know where I'll end up, or how the story is going to continue to force me to choose factions, but after abandoning the BoS, now my choices get tougher, and I look forward to seeing how it unfolds.
     
  27. Gorge

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    yeah i think im going to have to put the settlements on hold for a while, they're getting me no where fast. I spent a few hours yesterday clearing out a couple new settlement areas and then went around setting up supply lines between most of them and giving most settlements a radio beacon and 1 sentry and the appropriate number of beds.
     
  28. dimmerwit

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    I'm at basically the same place, although I haven't committed yet. I have both the BoS v Institute and another conflict option open, but I will go with the former.

    I feel exactly the same as the BoS. I've never felt their "mission" of collecting technology made any justifiable sense, and in fact they are even more secretive than the Institute because at least with the latter you know what their objectives. Maxson is a bit of a twat and I feel like loading Fallout 3 so I can kill him there as well. But, yeah. I just think their objective is stupid as I'm sure Elder Lyons did in Fallout 3. They have so much technology and power and yet they refuse to do any good with it. I felt so good destroying their bunker in New Vegas and I'm glad they're basically wiped out in the west.

    The Institute are probably going to be my choice. The Minutemen are cool enough but I don't really see why they should come into conflict with any of the others since they aren't really big on the synths debate. The Railroad are cool and that but I'll admit that I think the Institute's technology is just too good to pass up. If I play through again, I'll go with the Railroad.
     
  29. Jon

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    You and I have basically the same outlook on this game. I love it. I've done so many side quests though. I'm NEARLY 72 hours into the game, and I'm only where I'm at, which admittedly, I have no idea how far that it. But I've enjoyed what they've done with the game, overall. The story just absolutely annihilate's that of Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas.
     
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    First crash after 51 hours. Note to self - when targeting closed turrets in VATS, getting the Mysterious Stranger is not lucky...