Building a Gaming PC

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  1. Gorge

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    About a month ago I started buying parts for my first gaming PC since 2004. The last one I had was from ibuypower.com and while it was custom I didn't build it. For the first time ever i'm building one from the ground up.

    With every pay check I plan to buy one or two parts, and at the moment I have three pieces all of which have been purchased over the past few weeks. Once I do have all the parts I might upload a few pictures of the build process and talk about how it went.

    I've been using LogicalIncrements.com as a guide on what parts to look at, however I have yet to buy anything actually listed on the site. My budget lies between the Excellent and Exceptional tiers, so between $1000 and $1500. Either way after its finished whenever someone asks "But can it run Crysis"? The answer will be "Yes. Yes it can run Crysis."

    If you're interested, come. Take a journey with me down this magical road of technology and power.

    The first three parts I have are the Case, Motherboard and gaming mouse (which came free with the motherboard, so i'm not complaining).

    Case:
    Rosewill Legacy QT01 $60.00

    This one wasn't actually on L.I. (Logical Increments from here on out), but I wanted something that didn't scream "GAMING PC! LOOK AT THE LIGHTS", so I kept it clean and simple. It also has some sort of sound dampening material on the sides of the case, so I'll see how well that works. Its also worth noting it was much cheaper than anything listed on the higher tiers on LI. Money saved!
    http://www.rosewill.com/products/2529/ProductDetail_Overview.htm

    Motherboard:
    MSI Z97 Gaming 7 $180

    Got this one because it has the new Z97 chipset and was only $10 more than the previous Z87 board.
    http://us.msi.com/product/mb/Z97_GAMING_7.html#overview

    Mouse:
    MSI Interceptor DS100 FREE!

    I know the mouse isn't the most important thing or really what I should be worrying about at the moment but it came as a free gift with the MoBo so I wasn't going to say no. 3500dpi which I guess is good???, has a nice matte rubbery feel and a nylon covered mouse cord.
    http://us.msi.com/product/mm/Interceptor_DS100_GAMING_Mouse.html#overview


    Thats it for now. I probably won't be getting parts on a super regular basis. I'm going on vacation in about a week so I'm going to try to be frugal about money til after that.
    When I get back the update probably won't be all that exciting since i'm planning on getting a power supply, or maybe some RAM and/or HDD (I do plan on getting an SSD as well).

    Future future plans I'm starting to seriously look at the nVidia GeForce GTX 770 and Intel i7 4770. But because those are the most pricey bits it might be another month or two before one of those comes home with me.
    I'm also up in the air about what version of Windows to go with. I know Windows 7 is awesome and works, but 8 is the future and with the 8.1 update its supposed to bring back the Start Menu and make it a little more like 7. Just trying to figure out if it'd be worth it.

    UPDATE 1: 7/13/14

    RAM:
    Kingston HyperX FURY 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 $66.99

    8 Gigs (two sticks at 4gigs each) might be a bit overkill, but if used for work it'll definitely be appreciated. I didn't go nuts though and spend an extra $100 on 3300 MHz sticks and stuck with the 1600 which was very reasonably priced. It costs a little more than whats recommended on the L.I. site but Kingston has a really good reputation


    HDD:
    Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD 7200 RPM $52.92 + Free Shipping

    Nothing much to say other than I think 1 Terabyte should cover everything I install for a while. I also plan on getting a SDD to run the OS off, i'm just debating what else to put on the SDD and if I want to run games or anything else off it or keep it strictly for the OS.


    UPDATE 2: 8/25/14

    Processor:
    Intel Core i7-4790 Haswell Quad-Core 3.6GHz LGA 1150 $309.99 + Free Shipping

    I thought about overclocking for a while, but in the end decided against it. I'm not sure I want to deal with the hassle of making sure its adequately cooled that comes with overclocking, plus I'm not sure confident in the airflow of my case. While it has a decent amount of fans its not full of holes like most gaming cases (because its not one). I just hope the stock heat sync fan that came with it will be good enough. So I didn't get the "K" version of the processor, but I did get an extra .2 GHz for the same price as the 4770 I was looking at. Also saved myself $40 from what was listed on the "Exceptional" tier of LI.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116987

    UPDATE 3: 9/23/14

    Graphics Card:
    Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 WindForce 3X $309 + Free Shipping with $20 rebate

    Again I think this had a pretty good performance to price ratio without breaking the bank. I also went with Nvidia over ATI in part because I have an intel processor and I wanted to try something different from my last PC which was AMD/ATI based although that was about 9 years ago. I can't wait to plug this thing in. Another plus is that the box it came in is really nice and has molded foam surrounding the card. Dumb (although probably functional), but looks cool. Saved about $250 from what was listed on the exceptional tier of the L.I. website.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10440897&PID=5961731&SID=0


    Game:
    Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel. FREE!

    I've only played a little bit of the first Borderlands and rushed through it split-screen with a friend. So we didn't sit and watch any cut-scenes or read any dialog but I remember liking it.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16800995216

    UPDATE: 10/12/14

    Graphics Card:
    MSI GeForce Gaming 4G GTX 970 4GB $350 with $5 Newegg gift card.

    This thing is a beast. Without a doubt the best card out right now, while not as powerful as the 980 its still up there and with a price only $50 more than the 770 I had. So close to getting this computer running finally. (All the 970 cards, 3 weeks later are still totally sold out on Newegg)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127832

    UPDATE: 10/23/14

    Power Supply:
    EVGA SuperNOVA 750w G2 Full Modular 80 Plus Gold Certified $129 + $15 rebate

    I didn't know choosing a power supply could become so in depth with entire websites dedicated to reviewing power supplies only. I also checked with some Power Supply Calculator websites and got numbers all over the place. One even went as high as saying I needed a 1200watt supply (which is ludicrous), but the average number was about 650w.

    To play it safe I went with 750w. It was also important to me that the PSU was modular so I could do away with the unneeded connectors and keep things nice and organized. This one was listed on the Exceptional tier on the L.I. website
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438017

    UPDATE: 11/01/14

    SSD:
    SanDisk Extreme II 120GB SATA 6.0BG/s $86 + Free Shipping!

    The plan is to install the OS and other Applications onto the SSD for speedy launching while keeping all the other data such as save files, images, videos, etc on the HDD. Maybe my least researched item I've bought, but the reviews are really good and so is the price. I got 120GB instead of something larger because I don't see myself needing more than that especially if I wont be saving other files onto the drive. Up to 550mb/s Read and 340mb/s Write speeds. I got this right off the Excellent Tier of L.I.


    UPDATE: 11/05/14

    Optical Drive:
    HP 24x Internal Double Layer DVD/CD RW $40 + $2 bus fare

    Ended up running to Best Buy and buying a $30 DVD drive. A Bluray would be nice but I don't think I need it at the moment and more and more PC games are downloadable anyways. Maybe one day down the line I'll get one, but for now this should do the job.
    The only part i've bought from a brick and mortar store.
    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-24x-...rive/1371147.p?id=1219050755280&skuId=1371147

    UDATE: 11/18/14

    Monitor:
    Asus 24" LED VS247H-P $160

    Didn't put a whole lot of research into monitors but knew I wanted at least 24" with a good response time which I got at 2ms. 1920x1080 resolution, HDMI, VGA and DVI ports as well. This was also purchased at a physical location from the store in the link.
    http://www.abt.com/product/61365/ASUS-VS247HP.html

    UPDATE: 05/31/15

    Heatsink Fan/CPU Cooler:
    Noctua NH-L12 Low Profile CPU Cooler $60+Free Shipping!

    I did some research and for about a week I couldn't decide between this fan and the Scythe Shuriken 2 B. Both are low-profile downblower fans designed to fit in smaller cases such as ITX and Mini-ATX. My Mid-Tower ATX case can fit a cooler up to 160mm high I didn't want to take up all of that room. The Shuriken was $20 cheaper and looks a lot better, but only came with one fan, was supposed to be very hard to install, and didn't cool quite as well as the NH-L12. The downside to the NH-L12 is that its slightly bigger and it has the trademark Noctua poop brown color so visually its hideous. In the long run though the Noctua reputation is what sold me, on top of having two fans. I'm expecting it to arrive on Wednesday.



    COMPLETE!

    All in all i've spend about $1400 in total since I started 5 months ago. If I had an existing computer before I started I probably could have saved on the case, optical drive and possibly the monitor which would have taken off a few hundred dollars.
    Even though I didn't completely follow the L.I. guide I still managed to stay within the Exceptional Tier which was my goal.

    I'd say it was a good experience and now that i've done it once I feel I could build another computer in half the time. Building a PC is just a lot of plugging things in and sometimes using a screw driver. If you're thinking about it, I say go for it and don't be intimidated when its time to put everything in the case. Just be patient and double check everything.
     
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  2. the master 123

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    I don't see any problems with case or motherboard. If you have a windows 7 key I would just use that windows 8 isn't going to have any major improvement right know that I can think of. If you don't then go with windows 8. If the start menu bother you that much you can use a program like classic start menu that will make windows 8 start like windows 7.
    As for cpu since you got a z97 chipset that will support overclocking I would advise going with the i5 4670k or it replacement the i5 4690K or the i7 4770k or it replacement 4790K. A note that the i5 4690k and i7 4790k are suppose to overclock better due the better design but aren't usually support by z87 chipset(I think there a few but not many) which if you go to a z87 could be a issue but since you plan on get a z97 this shouldn't be an issue. If you don't plan on overclock then you could look into a cheaper motherboard.
    As for the graphic card the nvidia 770 should be a solid card for a while.
     
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  3. Gorge

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    I don't either. :D
    Im only asking because I know Microsoft is going to continue with 8 whether we like it or not. And the 8.1 update is or did (don't know if its out already) add a classic start menu to 8, so no need for 3rd party mods.
    I'm not going to worry about overclocking, at least at the moment. The processors cost a little more and I don't want to deal with all the hassle that comes with overclocking. I'll stick with my mobo and maybe just maybe down the line i'll look into overclocking.
     
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    UPDATE!

    After some procrastination I went ahead and got a couple more parts. I just got a HDD and some 8 gigs of RAM. Nothing too exciting, but its something. Still have yet to get anything directly off of L.I. but its still been a good guide in pointing me in the right direction. I've also started to wonder what to do if when all these parts are finally assembled and one of them doesn't work. 1 or 2 might go past the initial return policy by the time this computer is up and running.

    RAM:
    Kingston HyperX FURY 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 $66.99
    8 Gigs (two sticks at 4gigs each) might be a bit overkill, but if used for work it'll definitely be appreciated. I didn't go nuts though and spend an extra $100 on 3300 MHz sticks and stuck with the 1600 which was very reasonably priced. It costs a little more than whats recommended on the L.I. site but Kingston has a really good reputation
    http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-HyperX-FURY-2x4GB-1600MHz/dp/B00J8E93G6/ref=pd_rhf_eetyp_p_d_1

    HDD:
    Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD 7200 RPM $52.92 + Free Shipping
    Nothing much to say other than I think 1 Terabyte should cover everything I install for a while. I also plan on getting a SDD to run the OS off, i'm just debating what else to put on the SDD and if I want to run games or anything else off it or keep it strictly for the OS.
    http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST1000DM003/dp/B005T3GRNW/ref=pd_rhf_eetyp_p_d_3
     
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    UPDATE!

    Its been over a month since the last update, but I made a pretty important purchase this time around. The processor. With that I have just 2 or 3 more parts to get and I should be ready to go. The power supply, SSD, and Graphics Card. I'll also want a Blu-ray/dvd player but I think I can get away with not having one right away. So that might be the final thing I get.

    Processor:
    Intel Core i7-4790 Haswell Quad-Core 3.6GHz LGA 1150 $309.99 + Free Shipping

    I thought about overclocking for a while, but in the end decided against it. I'm not sure I want to deal with the hassle of making sure its adequately cooled that comes with overclocking, plus I'm not sure confident in the airflow of my case. While it has a decent amount of fans its not full of holes like most gaming cases (because its not one). I just hope the stock heat sync fan that came with it will be good enough. So I didn't get the "K" version of the processor, but I did get an extra .2 GHz for the same price as the 4770 I was looking at. Also saved myself $40 from what was listed on the "Exceptional" tier of LI.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116987

    New Egg has also been doing a phenomenal job. Everything I order from them arrives 1-2 days earlier than what my shipping estimate was meaning I'm getting 2 day shipping for the price of 3-4 day shipping!
     
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  6. Jawneh

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    Most CPUs allow overclocking through BIOS. Also plenty of newer CPU have software that allows you to safely overclock them without needing any super cooling. So you can still do it easily. I mean, you ARE most likely going with a good water cooler, right?

    And fans you can get real easily and install them around the case. After that it's mainly fixing up your wires so that there's plenty of space free.
     
  7. Gorge

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    The case already has about 4 fans built in, but there isn't a lot of ventilation leading to the outside of the case.

    And no, i'm not going to deal with water cooling. I just feel like its a big hassle and I don't know very many people that have recommended it. In fact I'd say you're the first.
     
  8. dimmerwit

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    I personally prefer watercooling, but I got mine professionally installed because here in the UK the company I use to build my PCs will do it for practically no extra cost. I don't know if I'd trust my own installation! I don't think the difference is important if you're not overclocking, it'll just be a bit quieter.

    I think you've made some good choices so far. I'd disagree about RAM in so much as 8GB is by no means "overkill", although it is definitely sufficient for even top-end gaming.

    On the CPU side, it's important to note that CPU progress has stalled a lot over the last 4 years or so, which is why in general there's been a shift in importance to the GPU side of things. From what I can see, you've spent about $700 or so at the moment.

    I actually think the Radeon R9 290 is probably the pick of the "high-end cards that aren't a ripoff" segment at the moment, with the regular card going for under $400 but offering performance that not only beats the GTX 770 but actually comes pretty close to the $700 Nvidia GTX 780 Ti.

    I probably wouldn't bother spending money on anything more expensive than a R9 290, because the performance-per-dollar drops sharply. The R9 290X for example is $100 more than the regular R9 290, but offers a negligible (~5%) performance increase, and as I said the $300 extra for the 780 Ti would get you minimal (~8%) extra performance. And if you compare at 2160p resolution, the gap between the 290 and 780 is actually even smaller. The only way to really beat the 290 performance wise is to spend silly money on the top end cards, which is never worth it.

    If you'd prefer to spend a little less, then again the Radeon R9 280 beats out its Nvidia competitor (GTX 760) despite being about $50 cheaper at a sticker price of about $290. In this case, the upgrade to the R9 280X would give you a decent 15% boost for about $20 more, which might be a worthwhile upgrade. If you want a comparison between tiers, then the R9 290 is about 50% faster than the regular R9 280, and about 30% faster than the R9 280X. A big note here though - I hear that they are soon replacing the 280 with a new model called the 285. The 285 looks to be a little better, but the other effect is that the 280 is no longer advertised and so, at least according to Anandtech, the prices for the old 280 card have dropped, so that might be a chance to get a good deal if you're interested at this price point.

    The only caveat is that the new Maxwell-class GTX 880 and 870 are rumoured to be releasing this year, although it's still a rumour particularly for the 870 model. If you don't need the PC for a little bit, it might be worth the wait to see what they come up with, although that said I don't think performance will dramatically overshadow what's out now. Besides, in the computer industry you probably know how technology obsoletes itself at a scary pace, and there will always be a new card out in a few months that will beat the ones out now.
     
  9. Gorge

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    I don't think I have the guts to install water cooling myself. I think if you screw it up you can have issues with condensation building up on the inside of your computer from all the moisture. Knowing me, i'd screw up.

    UPDATE!

    Got the last expensive and most exciting part in the mail yesterday, the graphics card. Didn't go nuts and buy a $800 card but I think I got a pretty good performance/price ratio. Its number 3 on this site http://graphics-cards-review.toptenreviews.com/. And its number 13 on this site which also ranks it along side the VFX professional grade Quadro and FirePro series cards. http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html Also got a free game and a $20 rebate out of it!

    Graphics Card:
    Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 WindForce 3X $309 + Free Shipping with $20 rebate

    Again I think this had a pretty good performance to price ratio without breaking the bank. I also went with Nvidia over ATI in part because I have an intel processor and I wanted to try something different from my last PC which was AMD/ATI based although that was about 9 years ago. I can't wait to plug this thing in. Another plus is that the box it came in is really nice and has molded foam surrounding the card. Dumb (although probably functional), but looks cool. Saved about $250 from what was listed on the exceptional tier of the L.I. website.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125463&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10440897&PID=5961731&SID=0


    Game:
    Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel. FREE!

    I've only played a little bit of the first Borderlands and rushed through it split-screen with a friend. So we didn't sit and watch any cut-scenes or read any dialog but I remember liking it.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16800995216
     
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    Well balls.

    NVIDIA Kills the GTX 780 Ti, GTX 780, GTX 770, Cuts GTX 760 Pricing.

    I had a feeling something like this was going to happen with at least one of the components during the build, it looks like the news broke the day I ordered the card. Now im wondering if it'd be worth returning the 770 which I only got 2 days ago and paying an extra $30-$60 for the 970.
     
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    I'd 100% return it if possible.

    There's a reason Digital Foundry's review is subtitled "meet the GPU that nukes almost the entire high-end graphics market from orbit".
     
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    I talked to New Egg on Friday and they're allowing me to get a full refund and then I'll just have to order a new card separately. Its a hassle and its delaying my Post test but on the upside they're allowing me to keep the free game.

    Im open to any advice anyone might have on any of the new 970's. People were complaining a lot about some of the eVGA cards talking about cooling issues and the Gigabyte card (same make of the 770 im returning) has great reviews but its too large for my case which can't take a card longer than 12"/320mm.

    These are the cards if anyone has any ideas? http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600536049&IsNodeId=1&name=GeForce%20GTX%20970

    This is the main one I was eye-balling http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127832 It just doesn't have a back-plate which seems to bother a few people and one reviewer said the fan doesn't turn on soon enough and when its under load it gave off a vibration sound.

    The other one was this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487070, but with the reviews for the other eVGA cards i'm wondering how well the cooling works on this card. Not enough reviews to know for sure.
     
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    The MSI one looks like the perfect card. Those two massive fans will cool it very well and will make overclocking very straightforward. Not having a backplate is a pretty meaningless complaint tbh, I'd much rather they put the effort into stuff like cooling that will make a difference. Anyway, there's a reason that card is selling out all the time, and it's even selling out at my favourite outlets in the UK. You should definitely try and get it.

    That guy complaining about the vibration noise is probably either being picky or has a defective unit.
     
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    UPDATE!

    The same day I ordered my GTX 770 nVidia announced they were dropping support of it and releasing two new cards with an insane Performance for Price ratio that was too good to pass up. After a little bit of thinking I decided to return the 770 for a full refund and get a GTX 970 instead. It took about 5 days worth of watching the card on New Egg waiting for it come come in stock, at which point every time Newegg got new stock it was gone in about 2-3 hours. It was a battle, but I managed to snag a new 970! And as a bonus they let me keep the free game anyways

    Graphics Card:
    MSI GeForce Gaming 4G GTX 970 4GB. $350 with $5 Newegg gift card.

    This thing is a beast. Without a doubt the best card out right now, while not as powerful as the 980 its still up there and with a price only $50 more than the 770 I had. So close to getting this computer running. Finally. (All the 970 cards, 3 weeks later are still totally sold out on Newegg)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127832
     
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    A good choice. I'm awfully tempted to upgrade myself. I might wait and see how good the GTA V port is and upgrade then, which I might have to do anyway since it's continuously out of stock!
     
  16. Jawneh

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    What is there to actually see? When it is out on PC it'll be 1000% better than on either console. Wait a month or even couple weeks and there will be mods making it even better.
     
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    The GTA IV port was pretty shocking. It tended to be unstable and was an absolute performance hog. The first problem was fixed but the second wasn't and as a consequence it was almost 3 years until I got a PC capable enough of running it to a satisfactory FPS without having to dial back the detail to console levels.
     
  18. Gorge

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    I just dread how large the install for the PC version of GTA V will be.
     
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    Oh, look, there's a thread here...


    8 GB of RAM isn't really overkill anymore.

    Also, I why did NVidia kill it's popular line of graphics cards? Why not reduce the price and make them like budget mid-range cards?
     
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    Killing is probalby the wrong word. I think the 700 series has been made a legacy card, so no new drivers and i'm sure production on them has drastically scaled back, plus a nice price drop. I think I saw the 770 is now something like $260. Anyways, its time for another.....

    UPDATE!

    This thing is so close to being finished I can taste it. Now I just have a monitor and SSD left.
    I would like to do a Post Test this weekend, but i'm not sure my PSU will get here before the friend thats going to help me do it has to leave town for 2 weeks. I'm really nervous that with my luck one of the parts I bought will be DoA and it'll be past the 60 day return period.

    Power Supply:
    EVGA SuperNOVA 750w G2 Full Modular 80 Plus Gold Certified $129 + $15 rebate

    I didn't know choosing a power supply could become so in depth with entire websites dedicated to reviewing power supplies only. I also checked with some Power Supply Calculator websites and got numbers all over the place. One even went as high as saying I needed a 1200watt supply (which is ludicrous), but the average number was about 650w.

    To play it safe I went with 750w. It was also important to me that the PSU was modular so I could do away with the unneeded connectors and keep things nice and organized. This one was listed on the Exceptional tier on the L.I. website
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438017
     
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  21. Gorge

    Gorge is robbing a gun store with a knife. Premium Member

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    UPDATE!

    I'm jumping the gun here on this update since I don't actually have the physical product with me, but I did just place the order and aside from the monitor which isn't part of the computer its the final part.
    I was a little hesitant back when I first started the build on whether or not I wanted a SSD because I remember way back when these were new I read something about programs not liking the this type of storage or something. Like it wasn't compatible, apparently that either is no longer the case or I read wrong. So I got one now.

    About the monitor. The friend that was supposed to help me with the POST test had to leave town for a couple weeks but left me his old monitor (crappy 19" LCD, not a widescreen format) and a spare copy of Windows 7 he had. So even though I don't have the SSD in my hands yet the plan today is to test all the parts with the POST test (fingers crossed) and if all is good put everything into the case. Meaning install what I have now when the SSD comes plug that in and install the OS. After that I'll likely get a good monitor this coming weekend. I'm doing this alone with nothing but the NewEgg videos to guide me. The slow part will definitely be trying to figure out where to plug everything in to on the Motherboard. I'll update with pictures or something as I go about this.

    SSD:
    SanDisk Extreme II 120GB SATA 6.0BG/s $86 + Free Shipping!

    The plan is to install the OS and other Applications onto the SSD for speedy launching while keeping all the other data such as save files, images, videos, etc on the HDD. Maybe my least researched item I've bought, but the reviews are really good and so is the price. Up to 550mb/s Read and 340mb/s Write speeds. Free 2 day shipping thanks to my Amazon Prime account.
    http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-2-5-Inch-Solid-SDSSDXP-120G-G25/dp/B00COF7DGS/?tag=logicaincrem-20
     
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  22. Gorge

    Gorge is robbing a gun store with a knife. Premium Member

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    UPDATE!

    I spent about 5 hours this past Saturday putting my computer together. Didn't have any help and just went off the manuals for my Motherboard, Power Supply and Case, plus the New Egg videos. Wasn't really all that hard, just really tedious. I was really paranoid about breaking one of my parts so I also went extra slow and cautious, double checking and rereading everything before I did anything.

    The most difficult part was getting everything plugged into the Motherboard. Some things were easy and obvious where they go, other things not so much. The PSU manual referred to plugs by one name while the Mobo manual referred to the same plugs by another name. The other tricky part was getting all the cables tucked in there and organized, my case isn't huge its a mid tower ATX so there wasn't a lot of room to work with but I think I did an alright job. In hindsight I probably should have plugged the video card in last because it hangs over a lot of the SATA ports making them difficult to get to.

    Another thing I noticed was that a lot of the components and plugs require a surprising amount of force before they're fully plugged in. Just about every time I plugged something in aside from on the PSU itself, I thought I was going to snap something.

    Now I'm about 99% away from having the build finished (not counting the monitor). All the parts work except for my Optical drive which was DOA, but was also given to me free by a friend. Today the plan is to get a new optical drive from the Best Buy nearby. I'm too impatient at this point to order one online so i'm just going to buy whatever they have in stock. The question now is if I should get a DVD drive for $40-50 or a Bluray drive for about $100
     
  23. Silent Kayos

    Silent Kayos Resident Stevil Premium Member

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    I mean I have used my optical drive maybe once or twice since I built my PC. If you need it to install Windows, just get a cheapy DVD drive. IMO.
     
  24. Gorge

    Gorge is robbing a gun store with a knife. Premium Member

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    Good lord, where have you been?

    Its funny you commented on this thread. I remember way back in about 2005 you were helping me with picking out stuff for my new PC at the time. Now here you are, when im building another PC. Kinda suspicious.

    UPDATE!

    Optical Drive:
    HP 24x Internal Double Layer DVD/CD RW $40 + $2 bus fare

    Ended up running to Best Buy and buying a $30 DVD drive. A Bluray would be nice but I don't think I need it at the moment and more and more PC games are downloadable anyways. Maybe one day down the line I'll get one, but for now this should do the job.
    The only part i've bought from a brick and mortar store.
    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-24x-internal-double-layer-dvdrw-cd-rw-drive/1371147.p?id=1219050755280&skuId=1371147

    Pictures of build coming soon. Given time spent for other things I'll hopefully have everything up and running by the weekend.
     
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  25. Silent Kayos

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    I'm like a PC build comet. I come around once every 9 years to assist you.

    Good choice by the way. Unless you're going to need Blu-ray Discs for storage it's really not needed. I'd recommend USB hdds for that job over them anyway.
     
  26. Gorge

    Gorge is robbing a gun store with a knife. Premium Member

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    Well you must be good luck because I got the computer updated and running 100%. Aside from the free optical drive being DOA there wasn't a single hiccup during this whole build. I keep saying it, but pictures coming real soon.

    The only thing im concerned about now is that i've read a few things about the MSI BIOS updater application bricking a few Motherboards, and the MSI website says if you donwload the BIOS update from their site you have to Flash the board to do the update. Not 100% familiar with that process, so i'm going to research it more before I do anything.
     
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  27. Gorge

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    UPDATE!

    Perhaps maybe the final update to this thread, but the computer is finished, a new monitor has been purchased and everything up and running 100%.

    And just because i'll add the monitor to the list as well even though it wasn't part of the actual computer.

    Monitor:
    Asus 24" LED VS247H-P $160

    Didn't put a whole lot of research into monitors but knew I wanted at least 24" with a good response time which I got at 2ms. 1920x1080 resolution, HDMI, VGA and DVI ports as well. This was also purchased at a physical location from the store in the link.

    I almost returned this monitor because when I first started using it I was having really bad ghosting whenever it was light picture/text on top of a dark background. The slow I scrolled or moved the more noticeable it was. In videos, really dark darks would appear as pixelated blobs.
    After some research it seemed it was a common problem with this monitor but not one everyone came across. Several threads suggested going into the monitors menu and turning off a feature called "Trace Free". By turning it from the default 60 to 0 it completely eliminated the problem with no apparent side effects to the picture quality. Its really confusing why they would have an option that only makes the picture worse. The other complain is the stand is a little unstable so if I bump my desk or move the mouse quick enough the monitor shakes, but its tolerable.

    Overall i'm happy with the purchase, especially for the price I paid of $160.
    http://www.abt.com/product/61365/ASUS-VS247HP.html


    And some pictures. (apparently the IMG code has been disabled??????)

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    http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c105/Giant_Squid/Computer/IMG_20141101_174033273.jpg

    First signs of life.
    http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c105/Giant_Squid/Computer/IMG_20141101_174138670.jpg

    Something wasn't quite right. I think a few things weren't fully plugged in.
    http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c105/Giant_Squid/Computer/IMG_20141101_180623679.jpg

    PSU Nest
    http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c105/Giant_Squid/Computer/IMG_20141101_182839602.jpg

    Just need the OS. Had to wait for the optical drive to do that though.
    http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c105/Giant_Squid/Computer/IMG_20141101_182851891.jpg

    Attempting cable management.
    http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c105/Giant_Squid/Computer/IMG_20141101_194124955.jpg

    Great success!
    http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c105/Giant_Squid/Computer/IMG_20141105_203022942.jpg

    And the final setup. I don't have a lot of room to work with, but its comfortable enough.
    http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c105/Giant_Squid/Computer/IMG_20141118_210852476_HDR.jpg
     
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  28. Fool's Requiem

    Fool's Requiem Is that a pro Genji?! Premium Member

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    I recently got two ASUS 21.5" monitors for 99 bucks each. Including the really old 20" Samsung monitor I've had for 7 years, I've got three monitors. Three monitors is pretty sweet, takes some getting used to.
     
  29. Gorge

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    I'd like to have dual monitors but I just don't have the room right now. My desk is about as big as it can get while still fitting in my room
     
  30. Gorge

    Gorge is robbing a gun store with a knife. Premium Member

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    After nearly 7 months with almost smooth sailing (aside from a BSOD mystery) with the computer i've had to go and buy another part.

    When I originally got the computer I had no plans of overclocking, and still don't. I thought the stock CPU fan that came with the processor would be sufficient, and for the longest time it was. I was able to run Crysis on Ultra without any issues involving heat and while that game is old by game standards its still a nice looking game. But then Witcher 3 happened and that games making my computer work and while the stock cooler may be good enough keeping my CPU temps in the 70-80c range i'd be more comfortable if it were running cooler so I decided to go ahead and get a new...

    Heatsink Fan/CPU Cooler:
    Noctua NH-L12 Low Profile CPU Cooler $60+Free Shipping!

    I did some research and for about a week I couldn't decide between this fan and the Scythe Shuriken 2 B. Both are low-profile downblower fans designed to fit in smaller cases such as ITX and Mini-ATX. My Mid-Tower ATX case can fit a cooler up to 160mm high I didn't want to take up all of that room, which most Tower style coolers either went right up to about 159/158mm height or even more I didn't want just 1-2mm of clearance between the fan and the side panel of the case.
    The low profile is good for someone that doesn't plan to overclock but still wants more efficient cooling. The Shuriken was $20 cheaper and looks a lot better, but only came with one fan, was supposed to be very hard to install, and didn't cool quite as well as the NH-L12. The downside to the NH-L12 is that its slightly bigger and it has the trademark Noctua poop brown color so visually its hideous. In the long run though the Noctua reputation is what sold me, on top of having two fans. I'm expecting it to arrive on Wednesday.



    The BSOD mystery will be hopefully completely solved once I buy two new 120mm case fans in the near future. Expect an update for that soon.